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Posted: 26 October 2006 12:19 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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are you guys using them all macro long or only early.
if so,  how and when do you go over to other training modalities,  or in what way do you change the circuits going into late macro?

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Posted: 26 October 2006 11:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Flow - 26 October 2006 12:19 AM

are you guys using them all macro long or only early.
if so,  how and when do you go over to other training modalities,  or in what way do you change the circuits going into late macro?

the circuits are really done year round, u may drop them 2-3 weeks before ncaa's etc. some of the changes that can be made are < in reps and sets and the # of exercises. you can always replace them with other gs work etc.

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Posted: 27 October 2006 09:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Just wanted to add that the bodybuilding circuits are not intended to take the place of more traditional strength / power emphasis weight training. The circuits are intended as a supplement to boost metabolism, increase work capacity and enhance endocrine profile.

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Posted: 27 October 2006 12:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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ya,  i wanted to use them because i consider them better suited for a  60m guy than ext.  tempo runs.  however in the summer i would progress to a point where i would be practically doing intensive (instead of ext.) tempo´s on recovery days.  i wanted to learn if there was that kind of progression with bb circuits,  or maybe even a complete switch back to running with no circuits at some point,  but i guess everything has been said.  thanks guys.

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Posted: 27 October 2006 01:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Flow - 27 October 2006 12:33 PM

ya,  i wanted to use them because i consider them better suited for a  60m guy than ext.  tempo runs.  however in the summer i would progress to a point where i would be practically doing intensive (instead of ext.) tempo´s on recovery days.  i wanted to learn if there was that kind of progression with bb circuits,  or maybe even a complete switch back to running with no circuits at some point,  but i guess everything has been said.  thanks guys.

r u gonna run the 100?  why are u gonna switch

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Posted: 27 October 2006 11:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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yeah im running 60m  in the winter and 100 in the summer.  the ext/int.  tempo thing i mentioned was what i did last summer.  this winter,  and maybe next summer too,  i want to do the bbcircuits.  i just wanted to know about the progression with them,  didnt necessarily want to switch.  hope i understood your question right…

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Posted: 05 November 2006 12:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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As far as progression goes, there really isn't one if you are intending to use them to enhance recovery/on recovery days.  What you want to do is maintain the intensity (weight, speed, etc) that you did initially all season.  Granted if you are in the off season, then you could build intensity then get to a point where you maintain all season.     

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Posted: 05 November 2006 01:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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wsgeneral - 05 November 2006 12:31 PM

As far as progression goes, there really isn't one if you are intending to use them to enhance recovery/on recovery days.  What you want to do is maintain the intensity (weight, speed, etc) that you did initially all season.  Granted if you are in the off season, then you could build intensity then get to a point where you maintain all season.     

I actually do have a progression for my weight lifting circuits. Much of it is prescriptive in nature but you can progress from time to reps, slightly higher reps to slightly lower reps, more exercises to fewer, progression of exercise order (repeating exercises for 2 sets, going through straight, doing an exercise twice but not back to back, etc.), isolation exercises to full body to functional, etc. Unlike typical progressions my circuit progression depends on a number of variables and can't simply be taken out of the context of the entire session or micro.  

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Posted: 05 November 2006 01:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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in general would you say you increase or decrease the impact* the circuit has on your athletes in the progressing season?
*how "hard" the training is for the athlete

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Posted: 05 November 2006 01:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Generally the impact decreases. Volume and / or density rather than intensity are the major variables altered. While the loads might increase slightly due to strenth gains the primary purpose is not to be pushing heavy weights.

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Posted: 06 November 2006 01:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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mike - 05 November 2006 01:58 PM

Generally the impact decreases. Volume and / or density rather than intensity are the major variables altered. While the loads might increase slightly due to strenth gains the primary purpose is not to be pushing heavy weights.

mike what do u say to people that think the bb circuits vol is too high and will beat u down and not allow for you to be fresh enough to put out on the hi int days?

these are the circuits:

Circuit A:
Leg curls
twist lunges
good mornings
bent rows
lat pd bh
dips
bh sh press
leg ext
twist situps
hang leg lifts
russ twist


Circuit B:
single leg curl
sdl
good mornings
bent row
lat pd fr
bh press
single leg ext
weight ball crunch
hang leg lift side
russ twist
weighted v up

 

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Posted: 06 November 2006 03:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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mike - 05 November 2006 01:58 PM

Generally the impact decreases. Volume and / or density rather than intensity are the major variables altered. While the loads might increase slightly due to strenth gains the primary purpose is not to be pushing heavy weights.

mike what do u say to people that think the bb circuits vol is too high and will beat u down and not allow for you to be fresh enough to put out on the hi int days?

Not true.  At first they are hard but if you start with very light weight you get used to them with no negative effect the next day.

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Posted: 06 November 2006 04:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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mike - 05 November 2006 01:58 PM

Generally the impact decreases. Volume and / or density rather than intensity are the major variables altered. While the loads might increase slightly due to strenth gains the primary purpose is not to be pushing heavy weights.

mike what do u say to people that think the bb circuits vol is too high and will beat u down and not allow for you to be fresh enough to put out on the hi int days?

Not true.  At first they are hard but if you start with very light weight you get used to them with no negative effect the next day.

sounds good but u were one of those people that said they would wear you down

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Posted: 06 November 2006 04:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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Yea I'm not a fan of volume but when did I say no to the weight circuits?  I do really light weight.  Maybe something like 30%-40% on lower body lifts and 60% on upper body.

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Posted: 06 November 2006 04:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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mortac8 - 06 November 2006 04:23 PM

Yea I'm not a fan of volume but when did I say no to the weight circuits?  I do really light weight.  Maybe something like 30%-40% on lower body lifts and 60% on upper body.

i agree bout the tempo comment i can take about 1500m of tempo without wearing me down, but i think the bb circuits are gonna work good with the setup i now have.

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Posted: 08 November 2006 05:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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I like bb circuits for short sprinters especially. They don't quite work as an extensive tempo replacement for long sprinters but I think that is of little importance for short sprinters. I've had athletes do both at times. Sometimes athletes do feel bad for the first 10 days (~3 days of weight lifting circuits) but they quickly adapt and shortly after that it becomes a recovery tool more than anything. As mort said though you can't expect to push big weights around and get that effect.

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