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Posted: 03 September 2008 09:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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im a little skeptical of these times. Bottomline is I dont think Usain Bolt and the 100m womens champ can turn their times around like that in one year.


This is an article before the olympics from victor conte.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-jamaica19-2008jul19,0,5120869.story


This is an article after the olympics.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/drugs-in-sports/antidoping-body-warned-about-jamaicans/2008/08/19/1218911718313.html

This is an article of two jamaicans being implicated in steroids after the olympics also.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/more/09/02/jamaican.track/index.html

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Posted: 03 September 2008 10:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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Powell, Gay and Bolt will all be there for the last race:

http://www.iaaf.org/GLE08/news/newsid=47468.html

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Posted: 03 September 2008 10:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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mortac8 - 03 September 2008 07:41 AM

I think he is prepared.  I don’t know how people keep questioning his preparation after he totally crapped out in the 100 then ran a searing 4x1 anchor leg.  I think if the Olympics were next week the results would be about the same. 

He just can’t run rounds (and may be a total head case).  Hell, he couldn’t even run faster in the 2nd round at Rieti last year after he ran WR shutting down in the prelims.

Thats a good point about his WR last year, although I sort of assumed running 9.74, regardless of shutting down, might fry you a little bit if you have more races that day.

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Posted: 03 September 2008 11:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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mortac8 - 03 September 2008 07:41 AM

I think he is prepared.  I don’t know how people keep questioning his preparation after he totally crapped out in the 100 then ran a searing 4x1 anchor leg.  I think if the Olympics were next week the results would be about the same. 

He just can’t run rounds (and may be a total head case).  Hell, he couldn’t even run faster in the 2nd round at Rieti last year after he ran WR shutting down in the prelims.

Aboout Rieti, well, it seems to be the rule rather than exception. I don’t remember anyone bettering the 100m world record twice in a day. On the other hand, I’ve seen similar things like Rieti happening quite often – i.e. an easy PR in the prelims followed by a slightly “disappointing” final an hour or two later.

I don’t know how prepared Asafa was (who except he and his coach really does), but the pec tear couldn’t have helped. Obviously pure speed was in place, but perhaps not stamina or ability to run four races in two days. Obviously he tightened up quite a bit, but that could also partially be due to not feeling fresh, thus making it even more difficult to keep the race together. Everyone’s got a threshold for screwing things up mentally, but perhaps a better physical preparation could have saved him for going over his own.

It’s difficult to know exactly what happened. If you look at it from a choking standpoint, you might be right, although I’m unsure about it being the whole truth. I also find it interesting that he seems to run better after a championship meltdown a week or so later, it’s like there’s a rebound effect of some sort. He seems much better now than right before the Olympics, especially after 40 meters of running

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Posted: 03 September 2008 12:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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lorien - 03 September 2008 11:51 AM
mortac8 - 03 September 2008 07:41 AM

I think he is prepared.  I don’t know how people keep questioning his preparation after he totally crapped out in the 100 then ran a searing 4x1 anchor leg.  I think if the Olympics were next week the results would be about the same. 

He just can’t run rounds (and may be a total head case).  Hell, he couldn’t even run faster in the 2nd round at Rieti last year after he ran WR shutting down in the prelims.

Aboout Rieti, well, it seems to be the rule rather than exception. I don’t remember anyone bettering the 100m world record twice in a day. On the other hand, I’ve seen similar things like Rieti happening quite often – i.e. an easy PR in the prelims followed by a slightly “disappointing” final an hour or two later.

I don’t know how prepared Asafa was (who except he and his coach really does), but the pec tear couldn’t have helped. Obviously pure speed was in place, but perhaps not stamina or ability to run four races in two days. Obviously he tightened up quite a bit, but that could also partially be due to not feeling fresh, thus making it even more difficult to keep the race together. Everyone’s got a threshold for screwing things up mentally, but perhaps a better physical preparation could have saved him for going over his own.

It’s difficult to know exactly what happened. If you look at it from a choking standpoint, you might be right, although I’m unsure about it being the whole truth. I also find it interesting that he seems to run better after a championship meltdown a week or so later, it’s like there’s a rebound effect of some sort. He seems much better now than right before the Olympics, especially after 40 meters of running

Powell’s 9.78s at Rieti was the fastest race ever adjusted to wind and altitude until Bolt came along.  His 9.78s race was far superior to his 9.74s race.

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Posted: 03 September 2008 01:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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I definitely don’t think Powell’s repeated failures are solely due to mental errors now. This year I really think fitness had a lot to play in to it. He’s admittedly a very lazy person who has been known to skip workouts. Add to that several injuries that kept him away from full sprinting and it’s amazing that he’s running as fast as he is. I’m sure his repeated failures in the finals of major championships is a mental burden but I think he has some serious training issues that also lead to his downfall. He’s quite easily the fastest time trial specialist in history right now.

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Posted: 04 September 2008 03:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]  
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dbandre - 03 September 2008 12:11 PM

Powell’s 9.78s at Rieti was the fastest race ever adjusted to wind and altitude until Bolt came along.  His 9.78s race was far superior to his 9.74s race.

That could be true, although we should perhaps treat wind readings, any wind readings, with a grain of salt. I’m not saying they’re wrong, but there’s definitely room for fluctuation despite being done correctly. I usually treat them more as approximations – they are only definite on paper.

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Posted: 04 September 2008 04:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]  
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Well, it looks like Tyson bowed out for tomorrow.  We’ll have to wait for the head to head to head until next year.

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