1 - Speed Endurance is not lactic tolerance work because the rest is near-maximal allowing for LA to be flushed out. You SHOULD build LAT before power. There are different types of speed endurance (and I was hoping not to get into this) such as neuromuscular speed endurance and a MaxV-like speed endurance. I'm not too well versed, which is why I didn't want to get into it, but know that when I say SE, I'm referring to speed endurance….the 3x3x60m runs are more neuromuscular-based and should be used for 100m sprinters. JJ got into this before I believe.
Well here's why I brought this up. My athletes were doing LAT work (2 x 600) for 3 weeks. Then they moved down to 300's with 15 min. rest. Now when they did the 300 session they were not only hitting the goal times provided but in some cases exceeding them, which leads me to believe that they were not experiencing lactate (unless I got it all wrong of what was being accomplished). But then when they step on the track the times they run don't add up. For instance, one girl was doing a session of 4 x 250 @ 90% (in her case, 41.5), but she did all 4 of them in 39.5-40.0. However, when she runs in the meets her time at 250 is MUCH slower. So what gives?
The 3 x 3 x 60 speed endurance workout I was planning on using probably the week of April 26 (not the coming week but the one after that). I was gonna give that to my short sprinters with about 60 seconds rest and maybe 4 min. rest between sets. Is this good to do, or would that still be too early to do a workout like that. Like I said before, my main concern is peaking them too early. Thoughts?
Originally posted by 400Stud
1 - Maybe the girls are nervous and freeze up at meets? I don't know b/c it doesn't make sense, but it does happen (READ: me in the 400m).
2 - You could probably give the 100m sprinters that workout now and it not affect them, but I'm not 100% sure to be honest.
Originally posted by DaGovernor
Here's my question. What are YOU trying to accomplish with this session? Lactate buildup or special endurance oriented? Couldn't you reduce the rest to 3-5 min. and get better results?
Originally posted by 400Stud
Shortening rest would obviously not be what I want considering the lactic tolerance work I like to knock out early in the season and use the end to work on lactic power.
I know what you mean by that 400. But what if my athletes were in good enough shape to where I could turn up the heat on them and only give them 3-5 min. recovery. Could I still do that, or is it still not a good idea? My purpose would be more lactic tolerance buildup.
If your purpose is lactic tolerance, then yes, 3-5 mins rest would be sufficient. However, I'm thinking that lactic tolerance work should've been taken care of early in the season and you should be working more towards lactic power work right now. What is your idea of "good shape" for them? If it's good lactic tolerance, then lactic power would be the way to go.
I'm honestly not the best to ask to differentiate between all of those for you. The only thing I "know" is that alactic speed endurance involves NO lactic acid (I THINK). Glycolytic is the LA power training and Anaerobic would be LA tolerance training…if my mind serves me correct, but I'm not 100% certain.
The terms might actually be mixed up. I would refer to them as Anaerobic glycolytic speed endurance and anaerobic alactic speed endurance. In both cases, the oxygen demand of the exercise exceeds the oxygen supply to the muscles. In the case of anaerobic glycolytic speed endurance, anaerobic glycolysis is the primary energy system and lactate will be produced. In the case of anaerobic alactic speed endurance the ATP-PC system is the primary energy system and little or no lactate is produced.
Originally posted by mike
The terms might actually be mixed up. I would refer to them as Anaerobic glycolytic speed endurance and anaerobic alactic speed endurance. In both cases, the oxygen demand of the exercise exceeds the oxygen supply to the muscles. In the case of anaerobic glycolytic speed endurance, anaerobic glycolysis is the primary energy system and lactate will be produced. In the case of anaerobic alactic speed endurance the ATP-PC system is the primary energy system and little or no lactate is produced.
This I already know but my question is, why would you train one versus the other?
For example, I have a training model that I use (as you may or may not know). It lists different types of training as follows:
(30-80m) - Anaerobic Alactic Short Speed Endurance; rest is normally supposed to be b/w 1-2 min./rep at 90-95%
(< 80m) - Anaerobic Glycolitic Short Speed Endurance; rest is normally 1 min./rep at 90-95%
Why would you do one type of training vs. the other?
