I currently live in Illinois, which is a big problem when it comes to training in the winter. Right now I’m focusing on the sprint races, but I’d be open to trying anything else I might be good at. I’m not too focused on huge performances right away, but I’m moreso focused on my long term development.
As for the title of this log, I’m turning gover a new leaf because I’ve been so stressed out about track, overcomplicated things so much, and now I’m just done with it. I’m ready to move forward.
Tuesday, 3/5/13
5’ Walk/Jog(Start at 2 Mph, Build Up Each Minute)
5x1:00 On/Off@10 Mph on treadmill
Abs Series 7
Big 10
Quick Static Stretch
So today was my first day really working out in a while…so I took it a bit easier than normal. I was snowed in complletly(Snow day!), so I was pretty limited as to what I could do for a workout. Pretty okay workout.
I really didn’t follow the details of my workout…right now I’m kind of doing unorganized workouts just off feel. I’m going to start organized training next week. Today I warmed up, did some mini flies-which was I’ build up like 15m in my basement then sprint 5m(I was REALLY feeling flies today), some plyos, and some hang cleans and RDL’s.. It was pretty low key.
Whatever. Clearly I can’t make one post in a log without you guys being total dicks. I just talked about what I did one day…which wasn’t even a planned training day…whatever.
Whatever. Clearly I can’t make one post in a log without you guys being total dicks. I just talked about what I did one day…which wasn’t even a planned training day…whatever.
Just ignoring davan would be a start. He’s a pain to everyone. Callam is not a dick, you would be wise to listen.
Ok I will bite here. Zack, how do you think it feels for the posters of this board who offer you advice for you only to ignore and them come back and moan about the same problems a week later? To top if off you then call us dicks? My final bit of advice.
1. Man up and go train with your HS team, you will find they are pretty good at taking novice athletes and getting them quicker.
2. If you ask for advice then don’t argue the counter point.
3. Following on from point 2, if you ignore that advice don’t re-post about it in close proximity.
You’re getting some really good, consistent input from some very knowledgeable coaches/athletes. They know what they’re talking about. I’m actually pretty amazed that the posters responding to your log are still here, considering you truly don’t seem serious about training. By not being serious, I mean that you seem to spend much more time trying to work out the perfect plan than you do actually working the plan. At your age and ability, I truly think you should consider yourself very fortunate that these guys are still talking to you.
My advice, train four to five times a week, no matter what. If weather is bad, go to the gym. If you can’t get to the gym, do bodyweight and plyos at home. Get yourself into better shape and into a training mode. Then work on modifying a plan to suit your needs.
Zack, training programs, regardless of how sophisticated, are not the answer to a lack of motivation to train. The process of constantly evaluating and changing your plan can be, at times, a symptom of a lack of motivation and discipline. Like the Nike slogan, you should “just do it”. Once you are training consistently and begin noticing improvements (any program, even if not optimal, will give someone your age and ability descent results) you can modify and improve the plan. Seeing you log every day, or even a few times per week, will keep the Elitetrack members in your corner.
I wish I had been so privileged as a young athlete to receive the kind of technical input from such a knowledgeable group of coaches and athletes as you have been enjoying.
Bottom line, if you want to improve yourself, understand that you’ve found a great group of knowledgeable and experienced advisers who are willing to work with you for free. But they will quickly fade away and write you off if you do not prove yourself serious, and most of all, respectful.
Whatever. Clearly I can’t make one post in a log without you guys being total dicks. I just talked about what I did one day…which wasn’t even a planned training day…whatever.
Just ignoring davan would be a start. He’s a pain to everyone. Callam is not a dick, you would be wise to listen.
Yeah, your advice is terrific and you’ve both coached a great number of good athletes and run such decent times yourself. Let’s talk more about the acceleration patterns of athletes that barely break 12 on a warm day with a bit of trailing wind or discuss their technique on flies.
Whatever. Clearly I can’t make one post in a log without you guys being total dicks. I just talked about what I did one day…which wasn’t even a planned training day…whatever.
Just ignoring davan would be a start. He’s a pain to everyone. Callam is not a dick, you would be wise to listen.
Yeah, your advice is terrific and you’ve both coached a great number of good athletes and run such decent times yourself. Let’s talk more about the acceleration patterns of athletes that barely break 12 on a warm day with a bit of trailing wind or discuss their technique on flies.
Dude you haven’t coached ANYONE. You’re post collegiate guy that runs 10.7X, Most people would have quit by now. And for all your ‘only do speedwork’ work advice, you haven’t comepleted a season since what, 2011?
The reason I talk about 12 second people is because most kids start there. An 11.5 guy might not be the star of the team, but he is a valuable asset to the 4x100m, hurdles, jumps, etc. And probably started running at 12.2 or slower. For you to ignore that shows your lack of real world experience, not mine.
Your comment about our times is ludicrous. I was plenty competitive when I ran track, but I moved one from that sport almost 8 years ago.
What the hell are you talking about? I ran 10.5fat last year in terrible midwest conditions (only ran 3 outdoor races because, you know, hard to working @ a hedge fund), ran 6.7 this year beating the Big10 champ and a number of athletes competing @ D1 nationals this weekend head-tohead, help out with the coach of group/club that has multiple high school girls with better PRs than you. I’ve literally PR’d in the sprints every year since 2008, albeit slow progress. If you want to start shit, let’s get it. If I didn’t break 15 handtimed in the hurdles I would’ve quit, too.
You’re getting some really good, consistent input from some very knowledgeable coaches/athletes. They know what they’re talking about. I’m actually pretty amazed that the posters responding to your log are still here, considering you truly don’t seem serious about training. By not being serious, I mean that you seem to spend much more time trying to work out the perfect plan than you do actually working the plan. At your age and ability, I truly think you should consider yourself very fortunate that these guys are still talking to you.
My advice, train four to five times a week, no matter what. If weather is bad, go to the gym. If you can’t get to the gym, do bodyweight and plyos at home. Get yourself into better shape and into a training mode. Then work on modifying a plan to suit your needs.
Zack, training programs, regardless of how sophisticated, are not the answer to a lack of motivation to train. The process of constantly evaluating and changing your plan can be, at times, a symptom of a lack of motivation and discipline. Like the Nike slogan, you should “just do it”. Once you are training consistently and begin noticing improvements (any program, even if not optimal, will give someone your age and ability descent results) you can modify and improve the plan. Seeing you log every day, or even a few times per week, will keep the Elitetrack members in your corner.
I wish I had been so privileged as a young athlete to receive the kind of technical input from such a knowledgeable group of coaches and athletes as you have been enjoying.
Bottom line, if you want to improve yourself, understand that you’ve found a great group of knowledgeable and experienced advisers who are willing to work with you for free. But they will quickly fade away and write you off if you do not prove yourself serious, and most of all, respectful.
Good luck.
Thanks for all that advice. I’m starting training on Monday, which is when I’m actually going to really dive back into training. Lately I’ve been just keeping things kind of light and stuff, which might have given the impression that I wasn’t willing to train hard…I don’t know. I’m sorry of what I’ve done the past few days has given you guys the impression that I wasn’t listening to the things you’ve been saying. Sorry if it came off as that.
Really, who cares what time anyone runs. Just go out there and have fun. If you start stressing and obsessing about this time or that time then you won’t be enjoying it. It is a really competitive sport but unless you are running 9.x then you are just slower by different measures. If you run just to validate your self worth then you will be sadly disappointed I am afraid. Go out there and give it your best and stop worrying what anyone else is thinking.
What the hell are you talking about? I ran 10.5fat last year in terrible midwest conditions (only ran 3 outdoor races because, you know, hard to working @ a hedge fund), ran 6.7 this year beating the Big10 champ and a number of athletes competing @ D1 nationals this weekend head-tohead, help out with the coach of group/club that has multiple high school girls with better PRs than you. I’ve literally PR’d in the sprints every year since 2008, albeit slow progress. If you want to start shit, let’s get it. If I didn’t break 15 handtimed in the hurdles I would’ve quit, too.
Oh well those are nice times, you could be a top 100 high schooler now. But hey, at least you’re posting your times now, maybe one of these days you’ll use your real name too.
I don’t ‘help out,’ I coach. This is a distinction that I hope you grasp, so you don’t recommend 600m of speed work to first time high school athletes anymore. And I don’t work for a club, I work for a school. So when I get 12s incoming freshmen (or even slower sometimes), it’s what I work with.
I must say I’m surprised you’re working with multiple high school girls that run faster than 11.3, especially since no girl in Illinois ran that fast last year.
I don’t even know why you would bring up my high school times. I don’t remember what you ran in high school. 11.1? It’s roughly the same as a 15.0. Both should get to the state finals in most states and divisions. Roswell was a slower hurdler than me in high school yet he is running sub 14 now. My ability had nothing to do with me moving on from track.
Zack, I apologize for derailing your journal.
EDIT: I don’t want to make another post in this journal, since that’s not why this thread was made. Jason is right, and I’m not trying to get into a pissing contest. All I’m getting at is you need to learn to speak to people on the forum in a way that does not put down or antagonize them. Because that is the main issue I have with you. Most of your advice is fine. I don’t usually roll my eyes at it. But when you put down so many people and their PRs, it borders on ridiculous. There’s nothing special about you or your advice, contrary to what you might think. The same goes for me. I’m continuing to learn and improve, and I hope you’re doing the same.
