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Posted: 24 April 2003 08:55 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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first meet of the year was indoors it was like 2 weeks ago almost.

i jumped 6m even in the LJ dispite landing straight up with my arm in the air to prevent my hand from becoming dirty because i had stabbed my hand on my spikes in the previous jump and was bleeding at he time.

This was a huge pb for me as last year i jumped 5.80.

last night at the field meet i jumped 3 jumps because there was no finals, and jumped 6.11, 6.03, 6.05. These were all pb’s for me but more importantly they were on a garbage roll up rubber track with a 4.5+ headwind!!!!!

all might jumps were over 6m so i am making progress i attribute this to th increase in speed on the runway i now have. my technique has improved as well as i now actually have a penultimate step. I jump with a hitch kick style by the way. In triple jump I fouled 2/3 attempts and they were all huge except for the one that counted which was only 12.48m. oh well ill get it next time.

next meet i get to run the 100, that should be exciting, i want to get sub 11.

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Posted: 24 April 2003 04:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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hmmmmm….if you can run sub 11s, u can pretty much jump near 7 and meybe even farther, and 14++ for TJ. Im not very fast, thats the area i need to improve on ( im white ^.^ ) , i only run 11.7, and with this speed jumped 6.7 LJ and 13.55 TJ.

( fast speed = better long jumper ex:carl lewis
this is however not the case in TJ, ex: jonathan edwards ) 

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Posted: 24 April 2003 04:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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11.00 22’0 for me.
i didnt jump last year when i ran 10.6 hand.

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Posted: 27 April 2003 06:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Jonathan Edwards is actually very fast AT the board. He was / is similar in fact to Mike Powell in that his 100m speed isn’t world class but he can reach velocities at the board (only sustained for about 5m) that are as fast or faster than anyone else out there. His other big thing is that his speed maintenance through his phases is better than anyone else out there. Check out this link for a brief biomechanical comparison of Edwards to other jumpers at the 95 WC:
< http://www.elitetrack.com/triple.pdf >

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Posted: 28 April 2003 11:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Originally posted by mikhail
hmmmmm….if you can run sub 11s, u can pretty much jump near 7 and meybe even farther, and 14++ for TJ. Im not very fast, thats the area i need to improve on ( im white ^.^ ) , i only run 11.7, and with this speed jumped 6.7 LJ and 13.55 TJ.

( fast speed = better long jumper ex:carl lewis
this is however not the case in TJ, ex: jonathan edwards ) 

hey i never said i could run sub 11 although i think i can.

my biggest problem than must be im slowing down on the runway. we’ll see tomorrow.

hopefully i can get some speed down the runway and blow up my pb’s.

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PS im white too

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Posted: 28 April 2003 12:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Originally posted by mike
...Jonathan Edwards is actually very fast AT the board. He was / is similar in fact to Mike Powell in that his 100m speed isn’t world class but he can reach velocities at the board…..

Powell actually has some very fast 150’s in training—reportedly sub-15.0

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Posted: 01 May 2003 07:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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i jumped 6.12 today but again with a head wind .... even worse this time. i still feel im not getting enough speed right now….have to wait for some tailwind.

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Posted: 01 May 2003 04:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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sounds like u live in a windy place flight….
yes you should always wait for the wind to setle, also think about not giving it a 100% start when your jumping accelerate as you come closer to the board, and your last 5-3 strides should always be at top speed, never slow down at the board.

Hope this helps…........

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Posted: 02 May 2003 03:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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mikhail-

i thought you were suppose to be at max. velocity about 4 steps before the board then more controlled at the board?  not slowing down, but not at full speed.

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Posted: 03 May 2003 07:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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i jumped 6.30m in long jump yesterday with no wind yeah!!
today i didnt jump well in the TJ, i only jumped 12 m into a ridiculous head wind. Todays wind is really bad over 40km/h.

oh well the lj was a record at the meet, and the best so far in ontario….hopefuly i can improve…my dad video taped me as well…

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Posted: 03 May 2003 11:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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can you post a clip?

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Posted: 03 May 2003 11:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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the one taped wasnt my best jump…
i dont know how to post, we’ll see later tonight, ill try

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Posted: 04 May 2003 12:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Fluke,

You dont have to be at your 100% speed, that also does’nt mean you should be at 90% of your speed, but whatever you do dont slow down…

The faster you are at the board the better you will jump.

At the board you have to be able to transform veritcal velocity to horizontal velocity, taking this concept, if your verical velocity is fast, you horizontal velocity will be fast too, to carry your body farther. Thats what the runway in LJ and TJ is for. Use it. This principle is very important for LJ.

For TJ its different, you are trying to maintain your vertical velocity as far as possible through out 3 phases.

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Posted: 04 May 2003 04:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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as of right now my home computer cant load the software as it is far too advanced for my computer

i mnight have to go to someone’s house tomorrow and try it.

i have notied alot of things wrong with my running mechanics as it is the first time i have sen myself on video

my step phase isnt so bad afterall…

i dont get enough knee drive either while im running.

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Posted: 04 May 2003 06:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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Mikhail,
I think you’re mixing up veritical and horizontal.

Originally posted by mikhail
Fluke,

You dont have to be at your 100% speed, that also does’nt mean you should be at 90% of your speed, but whatever you do dont slow down…

The faster you are at the board the better you will jump.

At the board you have to be able to transform veritcal velocity to horizontal velocity, taking this concept, if your verical velocity is fast, you horizontal velocity will be fast too, to carry your body farther. Thats what the runway in LJ and TJ is for. Use it. This principle is very important for LJ.

For TJ its different, you are trying to maintain your vertical velocity as far as possible through out 3 phases.

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Posted: 04 May 2003 08:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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woops….......your rite mike ^.^
fluke, replace vertical with horizontal and horizontal with vertical…...............lolz

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