Yes. As I said in the speed squat thread I have not used this method extensivly. I kept the % around 30-40%.
Here is the link again for those of you who would like to see them done. REA Squats, and REA Overspeed Squats (with bands). http://www.inno-sport.net/Strength-Speed.htm
Yes. As I said in the speed squat thread I have not used this method extensivly. I kept the % around 30-40%.
Here is the link again for those of you who would like to see them done. REA Squats, and REA Overspeed Squats (with bands). http://www.inno-sport.net/Strength-Speed.htm
dont like neither one, too much stress and risk on the knee, stick to jump squats..
If the loads are kept in the perscribed % more closer to the light side I don't think the stress to the knee joint is much different than that of a depth jump? I have not seen research on this and have nothing to back it up but perhaps Mike can enlighten us? I think the problem would occur if the athlete had bad squat form and was bouncing out of the knees rather than hips.
If the loads are kept in the perscribed % more closer to the light side I don't think the stress to the knee joint is much different than that of a depth jump? I have not seen research on this and have nothing to back it up but perhaps Mike can enlighten us? I think the problem would occur if the athlete had bad squat form and was bouncing out of the knees rather than hips.
i done the movement a couple times and really didn't like the stress on the knees, for someone who may not have a big bsq or using very very light loads it may be OK, why take that chance when there are safer ways to get the same effect.
That is why I would like to discuss the pros and cons and the similarities in all 3 modalities…Jumps squats, drop squats, and oly. lifts. Do they all create the same training effect? I'm not so sure. I see oly. lifts and drop squats having more similarities because of the higher loads being used as comapred to the jumps squat. This also depends if a reset is being used on the jump squats and drop squats.
That is why I would like to discuss the pros and cons and the similarities in all 3 modalities…Jumps squats, drop squats, and oly. lifts. Do they all create the same training effect? I'm not so sure. I see oly. lifts and drop squats having more similarities because of the higher loads being used as comapred to the jumps squat. This also depends if a reset is being used on the jump squats and drop squats.
i don't think u can compare ol vs drop squats bc u r not triple extending in the drop squat. the drop squat u r mainly absorbing force so why not do low depth drop etc.
Do dynamic box squats exploding at the top and let this prospot machine catch the bar before it crashes back down onto your back. I have found dynamic box squats to be very effective but I don't like the jarring action if you accelerate all the way through the top of the motion.
Do dynamic box squats exploding at the top and let this prospot machine catch the bar before it crashes back down onto your back. I have found dynamic box squats to be very effective but I don't like the jarring action if you accelerate all the way through the top of the motion.
what would u say to those people, who say dym box squats are great for powerlifters but jump squat would be better for sprinters?
Remember a jump squat is still a heck of a lot slower than a sprint….like is said about any weight lifting. If you don't want to do medium weight dyn box squats, then why do anything that heavy or heavier at all?
I would imagine that the box squat helps accel more and jump squat may help top speed more.
Remember a jump squat is still a heck of a lot slower than a sprint….like is said about any weight lifting. If you don't want to do medium weight dyn box squats, then why do anything that heavy or heavier at all?
I would imagine that the box squat helps accel more and jump squat may help top speed more.
i agree that jsq better for ts and dym bsq better for start/acc, but lets say if u can only pick one, and how would u do both of these in the same week? also i think a med weight box squats is alot diff then a jump squat.
i agree that jsq better for ts and dym bsq better for start/acc, but lets say if u can only pick one, and how would u do both of these in the same week? also i think a med weight box squats is alot diff then a jump squat.
I'd pair the box squats on my acceleration day and the jump squats with my max velocity day. The set and rep schemes would be fairly similar.
If the loads are kept in the perscribed % more closer to the light side I don't think the stress to the knee joint is much different than that of a depth jump? I have not seen research on this and have nothing to back it up but perhaps Mike can enlighten us?
I use these form of squats about 1-2 cycles a year. I keep the loads quite low (~50% max) and haven't had any problems with knee pain / injury due to these squats. The load is really not the point for this particular point of squat as what is on the bar isn't indicative of the force required by the athlete to overcome the bar. The force required by the athlete is dependent on the load and the speed at which the bar is allowed to travel downward (ideally a near free fall). Although I haven't done the calculations, when it free falls I suspect the load on the athlete would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5-3.5x the load on the bar depending on the height of the athlete and the position the bar is caught at.
i agree that jsq better for ts and dym bsq better for start/acc, but lets say if u can only pick one, and how would u do both of these in the same week? also i think a med weight box squats is alot diff then a jump squat.
I'd pair the box squats on my acceleration day and the jump squats with my max velocity day. The set and rep schemes would be fairly similar.
yeh i kinda figure that, but what training phase and would it ever been necessary to do 2 speed days in the weightroom?
I don't really consider the dynamic back squats as WSBB does them to be a speed lift (if I'm misunderstanding what we're talking about here let me know…I'm assuming 70% + bands as west side uses). The actual loads tend to be significantly greater than they mention. The body can't tell whether the resistance is rubber or iron and as a result despite them only saying a 70% load the loads typically range from 80-100% of max at any given point of the lift.
I don't really consider the dynamic back squats as WSBB does them to be a speed lift (if I'm misunderstanding what we're talking about here let me know…I'm assuming 70% + bands as west side uses). The actual loads tend to be significantly greater than they mention. The body can't tell whether the resistance is rubber or iron and as a result despite them only saying a 70% load the loads typically range from 80-100% of max at any given point of the lift.
when i used such lifts they were always with green bands + 30-50% bar weight bc anything more bar speed suffer. so would you ever use such a setup and when, mon: heavy bsq, wed: jump squats, fri: dym box speed squats. also i thought wsbb stayed in the 50-60 range
