Elitetrack: Sport Training & Conditioning

In Edwards' '95 WR, it doesn't appear markedly that he actually is using double arms through the takeoff (at least not like Olsson). Also, he doesn't appear to swing his arms in a very pronounced manner either backward or forward; the swing doesn't seem to travel far from his side.

saltojump5 - 13 August 2006 08:29 PM

In Edwards' '95 WR, it doesn't appear markedly that he actually is using double arms through the takeoff (at least not like Olsson). Also, he doesn't appear to swing his arms in a very pronounced manner either backward or forward; the swing doesn't seem to travel far from his side.

Aah, ok… I'm referring to what happens after the board, mainly how the landing of the hop continues into the step. I know there�??s a number of different names, but for me, its double arms if both arms are swinging simultaneously and in the same direction during the transformation from the hop to the step. Perhaps it�??s officially called arm-and-half swing?

Yeah, we had our terms crossed. So, the sweeping arm would be his right arm as it swoops from behind his body at takeoff, and then travels freely and extended in an arching overhead path? Is a leaking arm an undesired and archaic carry-over of a sweeping arm while attempting conversion to double arms?

saltojump5 - 13 August 2006 09:22 PM

Yeah, we had our terms crossed. So, the sweeping arm would be his right arm as it swoops from behind his body at takeoff, and then travels freely and extended in an arching overhead path? Is a leaking arm an undesired and archaic carry-over of a sweeping arm while attempting conversion to double arms?

Yes, it�??s the right arm that�??s doing the swing (left foot on the board). What I call a �?�leaking arm�?� is just a matter of description when some �??singe-armers�?� try to convert to double arms, but constantly find their arm moving too far from the center (old pattern blends into the new), hence finding no time for the arm to travel back and to keep it double at the transformation into the step (see Edwards right arm in Atlanta -96). So it�??s more a matter of describing the consequential broken rhythm; where the body does one thing and the mind does another, resulting in confusion and less than optimal timing at the ground. However, Edwards still manages to pop a scratched 18m jump there, but nowhere near the 18.43w in Lille (where such confusion is minimal).  

So in Lille 18.43w was he using double arms from the hop to the step, or was he still using single arms? I've never seen the Lille jump, but I know it came just a few weeks before his WR.

mike - 18 June 2006 07:59 AM

Any update Lorien?

A small update on Lebedeva. No full training outline, but some strength numbers to ponder on.
Clean: 105kg (full catch)
Snatch: 80-85kg
Wide split squat: no testing but loads approximately between 70-90kg
Step-ups: different heights, heard that she could go up to 120kg dependent on height.

Normal front squats are used briefly at the beginning of GPP as a kind of invitation to weight training. However, the front squat grip remains the norm but the exercise shifts to split squats. Step ups at different heights are done regularly.

She has a very good technique in the olympic lifts, perhaps due to have been trained by a weightlifting coach when she started �?? the full catch also indicates good technique. Moreover, it seems that olys are a very important part of their strength training.