well on one triple jump video they did bounding on grass, and on boo's video they did it on the runway, but the runway where i workout is pretty much concrete so i'd rather do it on the semi firm grass. by he way, i did my weightlifting and a lot of light bounding today in my frees and it felt fine, pretty normal so i guess it all jus depends
well on one triple jump video they did bounding on grass, and on boo's video they did it on the runway, but the runway where i workout is pretty much concrete so i'd rather do it on the semi firm grass. by he way, i did my weightlifting and a lot of light bounding today in my frees and it felt fine, pretty normal so i guess it all jus depends
u can do anything short term its the long term effect that will get to you. last year i did all my tempos on a indoor track with frees (dumb me), now i only use them for my warmup activity thats all you need.
u can do anything short term its the long term effect that will get to you. last year i did all my tempos on a indoor track with frees (dumb me), now i only use them for my warmup activity thats all you need.
That may be all you need at first, but as soon as your body adapts to the new stress, you are going to need to make a greater stimulus available so you continue to make gains. By saying doing warm up is "all you need" you would also agree that doing 3 sets of 10 pushups, lunges, squats, pullups, deadlifts, and russian twists is all you need. Sure, you are getting the 6 essential movements in, but how long could you go at 3x10 before you adapt to the workload and fail to make gains. You certainly wouldn't do that.
u can do anything short term its the long term effect that will get to you. last year i did all my tempos on a indoor track with frees (dumb me), now i only use them for my warmup activity thats all you need.
That may be all you need at first, but as soon as your body adapts to the new stress, you are going to need to make a greater stimulus available so you continue to make gains. By saying doing warm up is "all you need" you would also agree that doing 3 sets of 10 pushups, lunges, squats, pullups, deadlifts, and russian twists is all you need. Sure, you are getting the 6 essential movements in, but how long could you go at 3x10 before you adapt to the workload and fail to make gains. You certainly wouldn't do that.
barefoot training is a diff training stimulus u dont need the type of overload u would normally use. i think mike said it in another thread a good barfoot warmup/cooldown is all you need.
"i don't know if i would take it so far as to run a mile barefoot. we generally will do barefoot stuff 1-3x's a week for a few mins depending on the time of year. heel walks, toe walks, toes pointed out, toes pointed in, inside of foot, outside of foot as well as various basic jumping and skipping exercises are all activities you may want to consider. we do strides barefoot at times as well.
we really don't do tons of it.. 5-10 mins here and there…. generally as part of a cooldown routine "
"I think it fits in better as KT has suggested….as part of cooldown. Walking, running, and hopping can all be used on various surfaces to strengthen the foot and ankle complex": mike
It is really no different than weights. Explain to me how it is a different stimulus. It is, in fact, a strengthening modality.
While I do feel that mike is an incredibly intelligent and well educated man, I think guys here tend to sometimes take his advice as gospel. Perhaps including more work would result in greater health of athletes. Not saying it would for sure, bu who is saying it wouldn't?
It is really no different than weights. Explain to me how it is a different stimulus. It is, in fact, a strengthening modality.
While I do feel that mike is an incredibly intelligent and well educated man, I think guys here tend to sometimes take his advice as gospel. Perhaps including more work would result in greater health of athletes. Not saying it would for sure, bu who is saying it wouldn't?
I dont know why you feel that people here take Mike words as gospel but anyways, i think you can get all the strengthening you need in the lower leg by warmup/cooldown barefoot, also if you run in spikes often they also strengthening ur lower leg. i just dont see any major benefits by during ur whole workout in frees. something to think about im sure Mike knows more then me and you put together so why not be open to new ideas and not be like some people (B. Ross).
Itâ??s not a strengthening modality when it becomes a detriment, a factor that inhibits performance. Yes, jogging, light running and perhaps even some low intensity jumping is all very good done barefooted. However, when intensity rises, especially during jumps, then the whole context is shifted towards harder surfaces, higher speeds and much higher impacts. Therefore, we are no longer talking about strengthening modalities; we are talking about minimizing detrimental factors. Therefore, we implement better shoes, heel cups, taping our feet etc. In other words, when you blast down the runway into a high intensity jumpâ?¦ you better have shoes on, at least if you intend to continue jumping. Itâ??s more a question about intensity than adaptation. Barefooted is fine, especially with kids, but it needs to be implemented â??properlyâ?? and not â??categoricallyâ??.
also if you run in spikes often they also strengthening ur lower leg. i just dont see any major benefits by during ur whole workout in frees. something to think about im sure Mike knows more then me and you put together so why not be open to new ideas and not be like some people (B. Ross).
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With spikes, eh? I agree. Remember, my argument here is against overly cushioned "trainers" not shoes in general. I completely agree that you can get a great deal of strengthening without going barefooted a lot if you work in shoes like spikes and racing flats that have very low heels in comparison.
As far as not being open minded. I've given cushioned shoes their fair trial—probably 13 years, and find flats/spikes/barefooted work to be superior. Explain to me what I am close-minded about, please, and if you are implying that I am parroting Barry Ross's stuff, I suggest you take a gander at what he offers then look at my journal, as well as my advice to members. You will see many glaring differences. Some similarites, yes; parroting of information, absolutely not.
i find that if i do my winter training in racing flats (ie shoes with LESS cushioning) i end up with a lot less injuries when i move into my spikes, mainly due to the strengthening in the lower limbs. i totally agree with wsgeneral. i have just moved into nike frees in the last two months and have so far got nothing but benefits from thm.
Do you use the Nike frees as your primary training shoe? If so what surfaces are you running on (grass, synthetic track, concrete, etc)? I ask because Nike admittedly did not intend for the Frees to be full training shoes but if you look at what runners of years past ran in it wasn't too different than the Nike Frees. In fact, most of the 200+mpw distance runners of the 70s wore something that probably didn't have any more cushioning than the Frees and by some accounts there were less stress related injuries.
i use them for all the work except the saturday long run that i do and the sprint/hurdle work, plus i do a lot of walking (being a poor student) and i walk everywhere in them. so far, no injuries.
