so with the special endurance on Fri, that would set up an ends-to-middle approach..
and why bench press? its value for jumpers is debatable. we don't have to move a heavy object, but for propelling our own selves through the air. I took out bench this year.
yeh i guess so u could start out with 300-400 with lil rest then < distance and > rest time. why not bp, it could be used during peaking periods to keep the cns sharpe etc. im working with a tj and hes hoping to jump 49-50 feet this year, im am only designing his training program not there to see him train.
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I've had an Olympian high jumper suggest that a lot of those guys don't do bench. They'd rather throw a med ball to keep CNS sharp…or throw in more power jerks. I've really felt the benefits of substituting single arm snatches & upper body stuff that tests balance and elicits the stretch reflex under high speeds better. After all, we're not triple jumping on our arms. They're just there to fulfill the swing phase and they don't undergo extreme compression forces, as in lower body and trunk.
Is your guy in high school or college? 50' is a sweet mark.
I've had an Olympian high jumper suggest that a lot of those guys don't do bench. They'd rather throw a med ball to keep CNS sharp…or throw in more power jerks. I've really felt the benefits of substituting single arm snatches & upper body stuff that elicits the stretch reflex.
Is your guy in high school or college? 50' is a sweet mark.
do whatever works for you, u know ur body best. the guy im working with is in college from a small school, been working with him since last summer and has seen huge strength gains he could have jump 49-50 last season but he broke his foot. his strength numbers
6'0, 178-180
pc 275
bsq 405
fsq 315+
bp 255
everyone at his school is wondering what kind of training hes doing. lol
looks very close to my stats (his pc is better though…I think I could get that, but I was also jerking it with the clean at the time).
I'll race him to 50, what do you say?
BTW, does full, power, and hang as positions in olys refer to the starting point of the pull, or the final position after the catch? That's always confused me and I've seen it both ways. When I put 'full clean', I'm intending to say 'from the floor', not classic clean with a full squat catch. Let me know.
looks very close to my stats (his pc is better though).
I'll race him to 50, what do you say?
BTW, does full, power, and hang as positions in olys refer to the starting point of the pull, or the final position after the catch? That's always confused me and I've seen it both ways. When I put 'full clean', I'm intending to say 'from the floor', not classic clean with a full squat catch. Let me know.
just make it 55m and ill let him know. what ur 55m time
full= classic lift
power = floor
hang = knee level
i know some called the hang clean the hang power clean.
why we gotta make it 55m? I've traditionally been slow as shizzle, while I could always jump through the roof. I've only raced 55m once and embarrassed myself with a 6.93. Since finding elitetrack, I've gotten much faster, and was even beating my 10.93/21.89 high school kid last year anything through 60m.
damn they told me power was between the floor and the hang, you know, just below the knees. So take all my fulls to mean power then.
"Power" just refers to the catch position. In "Power" variants, you catch in a 1/2 or 1/4 squat position. "Hang" refers to the starting position. A lot of USAW guys have a pet peave about the terminology that some people use.
So you can have:
power clean from the hang (starting from hang, catch in 1/4 squat)
clean from the hang (starting from hang, catch in full squat)
power clean (from floor, catch in 1/4 squat)
clean (starting start from floor, catch in full squat)
etc.
Also I'd be careful doing approach jumps the day after weights esp. if the weights make your legs feal heavy or dead.
damn they told me power was between the floor and the hang, you know, just below the knees. So take all my fulls to mean power then.
"Power" just refers to the catch position. In "Power" variants, you catch in a 1/2 or 1/4 squat position. "Hang" refers to the starting position. A lot of USAW guys have a pet peave about the terminology that some people use.
So you can have:
power clean from the hang (starting from hang, catch in 1/4 squat)
clean from the hang (starting from hang, catch in full squat)
power clean (from floor, catch in 1/4 squat)
clean (starting start from floor, catch in full squat)
etc.
Also I'd be careful doing approach jumps the day after weights esp. if the weights make your legs feal heavy or dead.
u sound like CT, the only time i have heard it explained like that.
After looking at your training, I do like a lot of stuff you are doing. My only suggestion/addition to what UT suggested for a set-up would be in place of one of the short approach days, would be a longer bounding day. We do a series of Lefts and Rights working on cleaning up the ground contacts and leg swings.
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I've had an Olympian high jumper suggest that a lot of those guys don't do bench. They'd rather throw a med ball to keep CNS sharp…or throw in more power jerks. I've really felt the benefits of substituting single arm snatches & upper body stuff that tests balance and elicits the stretch reflex under high speeds better. After all, we're not triple jumping on our arms. They're just there to fulfill the swing phase and they don't undergo extreme compression forces, as in lower body and trunk.
In the fall, upper body lifting is included but come springtime, I try to have them maintain strength through different types of push-ups, medball work, and other various activities. During the year we try to further increase the strength-weight ratio and one way to accomplish this is to decrease any excess upper body mass.
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I've had an Olympian high jumper suggest that a lot of those guys don't do bench. They'd rather throw a med ball to keep CNS sharp…or throw in more power jerks. I've really felt the benefits of substituting single arm snatches & upper body stuff that tests balance and elicits the stretch reflex under high speeds better. After all, we're not triple jumping on our arms. They're just there to fulfill the swing phase and they don't undergo extreme compression forces, as in lower body and trunk.
In the fall, upper body lifting is included but come springtime, I try to have them maintain strength through different types of push-ups, medball work, and other various activities. During the year we try to further increase the strength-weight ratio and one way to accomplish this is to decrease any excess upper body mass.
Light and strong . . .
totally disagree, by doing upper body doesnt mean you will get heavy on top esp if u r doing 3x2 or 3x1. i couldnt maintain upper body strength by doing pushups, the only possible way is if ur bp max was 95lb and u could only do 10-15 pushups per set or <
