Those are the best basic exercises for sprinters alike. You can add a different variety of exercises that may be beneficial, but not as critical as core exercises. You aren't limited to ol's/sq/press etc. I posted this web site here and it is helpful and gives you options on what you can use for strength exercises.
what tha hell, no need for all that miss, keep it simple (KISS).. ol and var, sq and var, press and var, thats all the variation he need.
That is very true that may be all anyone may need, the site I mentioned above "twice" mentions all kinds of variations for core exercises I know it's a very helpful site. Anyone can add other exercises if they think they are helpful but they may not be critical like core.
clueless - 07 December 2006 10:02 AM
the only question I have: is which weight lifting exercises are critical for mid and long track sprinters and which ones that might not be critical but still beneficial?
I agree with coach johnson. I like using the basics all the time, I love that web site it mentions specific exercises you can use from practicaly a-z. I like to know my options I can use, for sprinters and bla bla bla, you get my point "football man" you keep keeping it simple (KISS). I could think of many exercises that aren't critical that I could still use and benefit my performance. :wink1:
I agree with coach johnson. I like using the basics all the time, I love that web site it mentions specific exercises you can use from practicaly a-z. I like to know my options I can use, for sprinters and bla bla bla, you get my point "football man" you keep keeping it simple (KISS). I could think of many exercises that aren't critical that I could still use and benefit my performance. :wink1:
it depends, if track is ur main sport and speed is the number one goal then keep the weights simple no need to get fancy, the weights are only a very very small piece of a sprinters program. but then again i don't know ur level, I'm speaking from a more advance standpoint.
I think it's every track sprinters goal to get as much speed as possible whether it's off the blocks or finishing the final 50m. But I understand where you are coming from, and even though it might be a small piece, it's the little things we have to consider. whether an athlete is at a greater level or not they can still use the basics and anything else that may be beneificial. I don't have to develop a complex strength training routine, Just add a couple exercises, that's very simple for any to do.
I agree with coach johnson. I like using the basics all the time, I love that web site it mentions specific exercises you can use from practicaly a-z. I like to know my options I can use, for sprinters and bla bla bla, you get my point "football man" you keep keeping it simple (KISS). I could think of many exercises that aren't critical that I could still use and benefit my performance. :wink1:
That's quite rude, UT does a fine job posting on this board and he's one of a handfull or two that are worthwhile listening to. To often people lose sight of the Variation Principle. The idea for a sprinter is to gain maximum strength and power, the basics he listed are crucial to that exact development. You add variations to workouts to prevent stagnation and enhance adaptation, nothing more, nothing less, those variations do include types of activities done, also the tempo at which they are done, the volume at which they are done, load at which they are done, and the recovery period involved. My kids having only a handful of weight room exercises that they can do, about 8-12 depending on the level at which they lift and compete. We change from parrallel, 1/2, and 1/4 squats year round, we do overhead and front squats and they all vary in intensity and relate specifically to the track work that we are doing. Everything we do has a specific purpose and each training session should have a specific purpose. You may add other qualities to it, but the focus and flow a training session have to have an applied scientific reasoning to them to provide for optimal adaptation.
You can do all those other exercises and find yourself in a never ending cycle of medocrity or you might find success by chance. Myself, I would be rather guided by tried and true scientific principles in my training than a potpourri of garbage.
I agree with coach johnson. I like using the basics all the time, I love that web site it mentions specific exercises you can use from practicaly a-z. I like to know my options I can use, for sprinters and bla bla bla, you get my point "football man" you keep keeping it simple (KISS). I could think of many exercises that aren't critical that I could still use and benefit my performance. :wink1:
That's quite rude, UT does a fine job posting on this board and he's one of a handfull or two that are worthwhile listening to. To often people lose sight of the Variation Principle. The idea for a sprinter is to gain maximum strength and power, the basics he listed are crucial to that exact development. You add variations to workouts to prevent stagnation and enhance adaptation, nothing more, nothing less, those variations do include types of activities done, also the tempo at which they are done, the volume at which they are done, load at which they are done, and the recovery period involved. My kids having only a handful of weight room exercises that they can do, about 8-12 depending on the level at which they lift and compete. We change from parrallel, 1/2, and 1/4 squats year round, we do overhead and front squats and they all vary in intensity and relate specifically to the track work that we are doing. Everything we do has a specific purpose and each training session should have a specific purpose. You may add other qualities to it, but the focus and flow a training session have to have an applied scientific reasoning to them to provide for optimal adaptation.
You can do all those other exercises and find yourself in a never ending cycle of medocrity or you might find success by chance. Myself, I would be rather guided by tried and true scientific principles in my training than a potpourri of garbage.
i didnt mean to be rude, i just feel if a movement is worth doing once its worth doing all the time, now var can come in many diff ways, reps, sets, density, etc etc
I would like to add that I don't always agree with UT on everything, but on this one there is no mistake.
lol, thats good you dont agree with me on everything - i like that because thats what this forum is for right?? we should discuss some of the things u dont agree with?
lol. we don't have to waste time stating the obvious, but maybe the question I had wasn't as direct as it should have been. but everyone can benefit from ol's/sq/press. I got two good answers from UT and Coach Johnson, it's better to have a couple good opinions. -thanks
Don't get too carried away, use the basics, they have been used for years built upon solid facts and benefits. I have been looking for other strength exercises… not so much as variants… just new ones that I haven't already mentioned, but that doesn't mean I have to use them, but it's also nice to have them all at my liesure if I feel I need more specific strength in specific areas. Basics are the way to go. Basics must be the "core" foundation of all power athletes. All sprinting athletes.
P.S. If you want to use my weight lifting exercises feel free, although a few critics might give different minor opinions, I think you will find all that you are looking for. It's all listed for your convenience. -Wise One
