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Posted: 05 October 2007 06:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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ya theres a new brand of flaxseed called "the clear"

BALCO makes it

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Posted: 05 October 2007 06:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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i can see where marion is coming from bc unless you are someone who like to learn about training/diet etc like many of us on this forum you could care less about your training and other issues, if your coach tells you to do 15x200 to help you finish the 100m most of them wont question the coach at all.  she was probably under Trevor system for a couple years and believed he wouldn't do anything to hurt her career and once again she could have been one of those athletes who did whatever her coach told her to do.  The point I'm trying to make is her story is very possible and i think she is telling the truth this time.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 06:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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Winnesota - 05 October 2007 06:30 AM

ya theres a new brand of flaxseed called "the clear"

BALCO makes it

i just ordered some from the site.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 07:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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This will be the tip of the iceberg as far as Marion's history of doping.  It is my fervent hope that the full long story comes out and exposes the weasels, weavils, and worms who have been profiteering from this person and rotting our sport from the inside for many many years. 

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Posted: 05 October 2007 08:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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Don't be duped in to thinking it was just flax seed oil or that it suddenly started in 99. The released Balco records indicate she took WAAAY more than the clear….much of which was not orally ingestable. Also, Conte's and CJ Hunter both have stated that they either instructed her or injected her themselves. There have also been rumors for years….long before the general public ever knew in track's illuminati that she has a long standing history of doping.

Flax seed oil? Yeah right
Started in 99? Yeah right
Stopped after Olympics? Yeah right
Didn't know anything? Yeah right

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Posted: 05 October 2007 08:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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Anyone wanna help me start the IXAF (International Xtreme Athletic Federation)?  No holds barred.  Jackpot bonuses to anyone who gets at any womens WR marks from the 80s.

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Lewis almost certainly has his hands on a 3rd consecutive gold medal…Powell good sprinting speed….oh that is huge!

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Posted: 05 October 2007 09:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]  
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Mike Young - 05 October 2007 08:12 AM

Don't be duped in to thinking it was just flax seed oil or that it suddenly started in 99. The released Balco records indicate she took WAAAY more than the clear….much of which was not orally ingestable. Also, Conte's and CJ Hunter both have stated that they either instructed her or injected her themselves. There have also been rumors for years….long before the general public ever knew in track's illuminati that she has a long standing history of doping.

Flax seed oil? Yeah right
Started in 99? Yeah right
Stopped after Olympics? Yeah right
Didn't know anything? Yeah right

but didnt she see a lull in performance after the olympics, hence she went off of them for a while, like she stated in the article or was that when she was pregnant

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Posted: 05 October 2007 09:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]  
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Yes. She was definitely off post 2000 games for a couple years. I am pretty certain of this based on information from people who would know. After this period, I would guess that she resumed. This however is purely speculation based on her resurgence in performance and change in physical appearance.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]  
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Mike Young - 05 October 2007 08:12 AM

Don't be duped in to thinking it was just flax seed oil or that it suddenly started in 99. The released Balco records indicate she took WAAAY more than the clear….much of which was not orally ingestable. Also, Conte's and CJ Hunter both have stated that they either instructed her or injected her themselves. There have also been rumors for years….long before the general public ever knew in track's illuminati that she has a long standing history of doping.

Flax seed oil? Yeah right
Started in 99? Yeah right
Stopped after Olympics? Yeah right
Didn't know anything? Yeah right


not gonna change the way i feel about marion, she was a great athlete before she even knew what roids were. its always the people who didn't have the talent that what to bash people like Ben johnson, Barry bonds, marion Jones, these athletes were great from day 1.  i think the roids hinder marion long term development.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 09:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]  
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utfootball4 - 05 October 2007 09:35 AM

not gonna change the way i feel about marion, she was a great athlete before she even knew what roids were. its always the people who didn't have the talent that what to bash people like Ben johnson, Barry bonds, marion Jones, these athletes were great from day 1.  i think the roids hinder marion long term development.

I disagree…all three were very good athletes who became all-time greats because of their PED use.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 09:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]  
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Excellently crafted piece, her letter…
What was her degree program at UNC?  Cause somewhere the earthly remains of many a great fiction writer, weep upon hearing the beauty of the prose.

The evolution of drug cheat's "dog ate my homework" explainations is becoming worthy of its own scientific classification.  We have come along way from "Someone spiked my toothpaste" (Like the Koala bear said, look it up)

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Posted: 05 October 2007 09:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]  
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Mike Young - 05 October 2007 09:49 AM
utfootball4 - 05 October 2007 09:35 AM

not gonna change the way i feel about marion, she was a great athlete before she even knew what roids were. its always the people who didn't have the talent that what to bash people like Ben johnson, Barry bonds, marion Jones, these athletes were great from day 1.  i think the roids hinder marion long term development.

I disagree…all three were very good athletes who became all-time greats because of their PED use.


Give me a break maybe ben johnson but marion was a multi sport stud in high school, and barry was a mvp before the whole balco thing.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]  
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Marion was busted in HS AND while certainly a prodigous talent there's no way she was an all-time great.

Barry Bonds….unbelievably good and probable HOFer before steroids….most prolific HR hitter of all time before steroids….not a chance.

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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]  
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Mike Young - 05 October 2007 10:01 AM

Marion was busted in HS AND while certainly a prodigous talent there's no way she was an all-time great.

Barry Bonds….unbelievably good and probable HOFer before steroids….most prolific HR hitter of all time before steroids….not a chance.

busted in HS??

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Posted: 05 October 2007 10:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]  
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Yep….under the rules of the time, her missed test was a bust. She got off due to Johny "if the glove don't fit…" Cochran.

It was for a lesser offense that for most I would overlook, but for Marion, it was the start of an entire career under suspicion.

She was national class in HS, then dropped off quite a bit in college, and then almost immediately….IMMEDIATELY…upon graduating from college became one of the top sprinters in the history of track and field. Within four months of ending an unspectacular college track career and breaking her foot she won the world championships…..give me a break. That's a slap in the face of anyone that trains naturally and struggles to make those gains over the course of a lifetime. 

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