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Inability to explode out of the blocks
Posted: 28 November 2007 10:54 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Sometimes in a sprint race, I cannot explode out of the blocks and not accelerate with as much power as I can. It feels like Iam not running as strongly and have slow strides. Even with a correct warmup, this sometimes happens.

Of course increasing my explosive power overall will help, but I always want to perform the best especially in a race.

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Posted: 29 November 2007 03:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Try to forget about "exploding" and just push with force.

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Posted: 29 November 2007 08:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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yeah, maybe with you trying EXPLODE, you are rushing the movement way too much and not completing the full push with your leg…try to complete a full powerful push, this should help.

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Posted: 30 November 2007 03:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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weight room can take care of the first 10m.

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Posted: 06 December 2007 10:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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special exercises that you can indicate in the weightroom for us Winnesota ? reps and sets / fast or slow or always explosive ?
Whats your suggestion ?

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Posted: 07 December 2007 03:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Its more a reference to being strong in the weight room.  For instance, at your school, most of your throwers would beat your fastest sprinters out of the blocks over the first 10m, this is because they are very strong in the weightroom and have explosive power.  When you start getting to heavier weights, in squat for example, make sure you are being explosive.  Once you get down, explode up.  In cleans, after the bars off the ground, explode up.  If you get to heavy weights, or light weights for that matter, and you train slow, you will race slow.  Any lift will do the job.  If your not doing some resisted accels, I would do that, it works wonders, but only 5-10% of BW. 

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Posted: 07 December 2007 04:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Winnesota - 07 December 2007 03:41 AM

Its more a reference to being strong in the weight room.  For instance, at your school, most of your throwers would beat your fastest sprinters out of the blocks over the first 10m, this is because they are very strong in the weightroom and have explosive power.

I don't know about that one.  Sounds nice but I quite doubt it.  I also don't know about the validity of using power cleans for training sprint starts due to the "controlled" 1st pull. 
I've trained my entire life for weight room power (squats, explosive squats, cleans, snatches) and I'll be damned if I can run under 2.00 10m.  Sorry for being so argumentative smile

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Posted: 07 December 2007 04:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Some years ago I read of a study given  before the 68 olympics. They gave 20meter sprint tests to many if not all of the olympic athletes the throwers recorded faster times than the sprinters.

Not sure what it means but it seems interesting if true.

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Posted: 07 December 2007 04:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Its true, most weightman can beat sprinters out of the blocks.  I wasn't necessarily saying cleans are the best for starts, however, I do think they are good for developing explosive power.  But due to the controlled first pull there are better exercises for the initial reaction out of the blocks.  Although, after the first pull, I do think cleans are good for the start.

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Posted: 07 December 2007 04:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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sprint400 - 07 December 2007 04:24 AM

Some years ago I read of a study given  before the 68 olympics. They gave 20meter sprint tests to many if not all of the olympic athletes the throwers recorded faster times than the sprinters.
Not sure what it means but it seems interesting if true.

That's one of those studies that's referenced constantly (now it's 20m?) but doesn't seem to exist.  If someone can point me to it I will be amazed.
See this thread where the exact topic is discussed in depth http://www.elitetrack.com/forum/index.php?topic=4830
Bottom line is that I emailed Yessis who supposedly did the study and he said… (read it)

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Posted: 07 December 2007 05:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Our 16m+ shot guys are faster than our 10.5 sprinters.

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Posted: 07 December 2007 06:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Barto - 07 December 2007 05:36 AM

Our 16m+ shot guys are faster than our 10.5 sprinters.

For how far? 10,20m?

I am sure there would be quite a few nfl linemen that could hang as well for 10-20m.

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Posted: 07 December 2007 06:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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How a world class sprinter managed his breathing before a 60m -100m ?Is he/she inhales forcedly before he/she come up "ready"
and exhale forcedly, or hold his breath during the whole race ?

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Posted: 07 December 2007 06:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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I hear this BS all the time-

Olympic throwers and elite weight lifters have explosive ability but let's get real. With youtube and electronic timing someone show me some 10 and 20m sprints. Plus they are done in a three point stance as a shot guy in blocks will look foolish! Some technique is important….


Good thread.


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Posted: 07 December 2007 06:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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Carl Valle - 07 December 2007 06:39 AM

I hear this BS all the time-

Olympic throwers and elite weight lifters have explosive ability but let's get real. With youtube and electronic timing someone show me some 10 and 20m sprints. Plus they are done in a three point stance as a shot guy in blocks will look foolish! Some technique is important….


Good thread.


I love Mort's hatin….so strong!!!

I have heard it from those who train thrower, sprinters, jumpers, etc. like Pfaff. I am sure Tellez noticed the same as he trained multiple events like Pfaff and has been successful in multiple events like Pfaff.

....shot putters can run with world class sprinters for 10-20m…

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Posted: 07 December 2007 06:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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Carl Valle - 07 December 2007 06:39 AM

I love Mort's hatin….so strong!!!

Think of me like the Travelocity gnome…denouncer of myths…er

rrheyn,
A sprinter would not hold their breath during an entire 60m.  In fact I had a guy who used to hold his breath the entire 60m race (and 100m!) .  When I found out about it and advised otherwise… -.2 to 60m

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