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Justin Gatlin- Dead Man Walking
Posted: 21 June 2008 12:46 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Late last evening, suspended 100m champion Justin Gatlin was granted a ray of hope for competing at the U.S. Olympic Trials that start next week. I don’t think this is right and I don’t think I want him to be granted the opportunity to compete but I sure am curious to see how he will compete (if he does). I can’t imagine he’ll run faster than 10.20. For one, he’s looked out of shape in recent
 
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Posted: 21 June 2008 02:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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I don’t think that Gatlin should get to compete…I know people are going to say that others are cheating, but Gatlin was caught, sentenced and should follow his sentence.  This could end up bringing about a whole mess of issues with others who get caught. 

I don’t expect anything big from him and since we have quite a few good sprinters in the 100 I think the chances of Gatlin defending his title are 0.

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Posted: 21 June 2008 04:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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I hope he runs and saves us from Jamaica in the 4x100.  If he actually DOES get to run after all this petitioning and shows up out of shape, I will be pissed. 

To make everyone happy, it would be sweet if he got to run trials then got the boot again after this judge’s authority crumbles on the world stage.

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Lewis almost certainly has his hands on a 3rd consecutive gold medal…Powell good sprinting speed….oh that is huge!

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Posted: 21 June 2008 05:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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He’s aleady had his 2nd chance years earlier, when he got a 2nd life at nationals.  No sympathy at all here.

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Posted: 21 June 2008 07:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Dont let his appearance now fool you Mike, he will just take a few ‘B12’ shots and he’ll be right back into it…

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Posted: 22 June 2008 04:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Irish—we have quite a few 100m sprinters? Don’t we only have one guy who can go under 10 consistently and only one other guy that has gone under 10 this season? People could very well make the team with a 10.0 this year, based on what we’ve seen.

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Posted: 22 June 2008 04:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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People do realize why he is being allowed back right? It’s not because he is getting off, it’s because his first positive test is considered bogus because it was a medication that he had a prescription for well before the failed test. Whether or not you agree with that is up for debate, but he is arguing that he should only receive the punishment outlined in the rules, which is 2 years for your first positive test.

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Posted: 22 June 2008 04:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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I agree that we have one consistantly under and I should have been more clear since I was really referring to others for the relay.  While Spearmon is not consistantly under 10, I think that he, carter (if he’s healthy and on), Dix and Gay would be our best option for the 4x1. 

As far as 10.0X making the olympic team, I agree completely, but I don’t think that Gatlin, who hasn’t had any competitions in 2+ years and will be all kinds of disliked by the crowd will come anywhere near that time…

At this point I think that Gay is really our only chance of making the final in Beijing…but Dix will be a huge wild card…

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Posted: 22 June 2008 05:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Why do we think Gatlin will be so disliked by the crowd?  Remember BJ’s indoor comeback so many years ago?

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Posted: 22 June 2008 05:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Maybe we have forgotten….
http://archives.cbc.ca/sports/drugs_sports/topics/1392/

EDIT: Crap, you have to click on #9 Back on Track

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Lewis almost certainly has his hands on a 3rd consecutive gold medal…Powell good sprinting speed….oh that is huge!

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Posted: 22 June 2008 06:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Spearmon and Carter suck. Way too inconsistent in every event, not just the 100—I imagine their coaching changes and their questionable work ethics are related to this. They’re going to be smoked by Bolt and Gay in the 200 and neither have shown to be capable in the 100m this season. Dix just started racing, so who knows.

But who is going to make the 100m team? Gay… fine. Padgett is consistent at the big meet and Dix hasn’t run any great 100s yet.

I’m not saying Gatlin is going to show up in great shape, but the US 100 is weak this year compared to other Olympic years. We only have two guys under 10 so far and only one that has been consistently under 10 in the last 2 years.

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Posted: 22 June 2008 04:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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davan - 22 June 2008 06:30 AM

Spearmon and Carter suck. Way too inconsistent in every event, not just the 100—I imagine their coaching changes and their questionable work ethics are related to this. They’re going to be smoked by Bolt and Gay in the 200 and neither have shown to be capable in the 100m this season. Dix just started racing, so who knows.

But who is going to make the 100m team? Gay… fine. Padgett is consistent at the big meet and Dix hasn’t run any great 100s yet.

I’m not saying Gatlin is going to show up in great shape, but the US 100 is weak this year compared to other Olympic years. We only have two guys under 10 so far and only one that has been consistently under 10 in the last 2 years.

To borrow from Lennon.

Imagine
Imagine what sprint times might be if an island nation was not fully on board with zero tolerance while that same theme was being actively applied on the continent.

Imagine, could that play a role in who is and who is not under 10??? consistently.

Before you all jump, remember I only said Imagine

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Posted: 22 June 2008 04:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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20.07 for Spearmon easing through the line is far from sucking.  And while Carter has not be at his 19.6 form 10.15, 20.25 and 44.70 don’t suck.  I don’t think either one of them are great 100 guys, but I think that they would be just fine on the 4x1. 

Right now I agree that Gay and Bolt will beat Spearmon, but I don’t think he has run too many 200’s yet and I based off that 20.07 I think he’ll run very fast this year. 

It will be interesting to see who ultimately makes the US team in the 100, and although he has not run any great 100’s so far I think that Dix could be a major factor.  Holiday and Padgett have a very good shot as well.  This is a changing of the guard it seems as Dix, Holiday and Padgett are all younger guys…should bode very well for the future of US sprinting.

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Posted: 22 June 2008 05:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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20.07 isn’t going to get it done when Bolt opened with a 19.8 w/ no competition and Tyson has ran 20.00 ACTUALLY shutting it down—not the ease down maybe .01-.02 nonsense. Spearmon has also shown he doesn’t show up against the competition and his race pacing is pretty shoddy at times.

Carter isn’t going to make in the 100 or 400 and while he will make it in the 200, he isn’t showing he’s near the form he was in college when he took track a litttle more seriously.

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Posted: 22 June 2008 05:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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Spearmon and Carter suck. Way too inconsistent in every event, not just the 100—I imagine their coaching changes and their questionable work ethics are related to this. They’re going to be smoked by Bolt and Gay in the 200 and neither have shown to be capable in the 100m this season. Dix just started racing, so who knows.

But who is going to make the 100m team? Gay… fine. Padgett is consistent at the big meet and Dix hasn’t run any great 100s yet.

I’m not saying Gatlin is going to show up in great shape, but the US 100 is weak this year compared to other Olympic years. We only have two guys under 10 so far and only one that has been consistently under 10 in the last 2 years.

To borrow from Lennon.

Imagine
Imagine what sprint times might be if an island nation was not fully on board with zero tolerance while that same theme was being actively applied on the continent.

Imagine, could that play a role in who is and who is not under 10??? consistently.

Before you all jump, remember I only said Imagine

I’d imagine that, if I believed that the 9.7-9.8 guys were doing much different than the 10.0-10.1 guys who rarely, if ever, even get tested besides nationals (if that!). It’s hypocritical and ridiculous for the assumptions people make and imply (that certain athletes are dirty, while others are clean) when the ones they are proclaiming to be clean haven’t even been tested, but the ones who are supposed to be dirty have passed numerous tests. Passing tests doesn’t mean everything, but it is a hell of a lot more than passing no test and having sporadic improvement curves (and declines) like most of the 10.0-10.1 guys out there.

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Posted: 23 June 2008 09:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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well, I was at a canadian football tryout in atlanta about a month and a half ago….Gatlin was there…Lets just say I ran the fastest 40 at the camp.  4.36.  Gatlin ran a 4.38.  It was hand time and I know I am not faster then gatlin but he didn’t look that great.  No way he would be in shape enough to help the USA in the olympics regardless.

PS.  He is a really BAD football player..

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