Elitetrack: Sport Training & Conditioning

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What type of athlete would this program be good for.  It said it had serious power output depletion, and I know that wears off after some time, but it seems like it would be a lot more beneficial to a distance runner than most track athletes.  Interesting but I don’t think I would be ready to risk trying it.

johnstrang - 18 February 2009 12:20 AM

What type of athlete would this program be good for.  It said it had serious power output depletion, and I know that wears off after some time, but it seems like it would be a lot more beneficial to a distance runner than most track athletes.  Interesting but I don’t think I would be ready to risk trying it.

I’ll say a postseason football player could use it for 2-4 weeks.

I would gain 10 lbs. on that in month. Especially if I did it for squats. I think I did that workout when I first read. I remember it making me feel “slow” but I was following those stupid tempo counts Poliquin likes to use.

johnstrang - 18 February 2009 12:20 AM

What type of athlete would this program be good for.  It said it had serious power output depletion, and I know that wears off after some time, but it seems like it would be a lot more beneficial to a distance runner than most track athletes.  Interesting but I don’t think I would be ready to risk trying it.

I think it’s good to ask who was this program designed for? What was their background, training age, “supplement” program, access to therapy, etc… I can’t tell you how many guys I’ve seen, and it’s been around 8-10 years since my first exposure to GVT, who stumble across a GVT article and start it up the next week. Sure, you can get away with almost anything…for a short period of time. I’d leave this routine for the 21 year old who wants to punish himself in order to get jacked.

As far affecting power goes, that can be managed by using it at the right time and in the right place. You could use an “advanced” form of GVT,  and use 10 x 6 to have a little more emphasis on relative strength and, perhaps, result in a little less fatigue.

mr glove - 18 February 2009 11:15 AM

johnstrang - 18 February 2009 12:20 AM

What type of athlete would this program be good for.  It said it had serious power output depletion, and I know that wears off after some time, but it seems like it would be a lot more beneficial to a distance runner than most track athletes.  Interesting but I don’t think I would be ready to risk trying it.

 

I think it’s good to ask who was this program designed for? What was their background, training age, “supplement” program, access to therapy, etc… I can’t tell you how many guys I’ve seen, and it’s been around 8-10 years since my first exposure to GVT, who stumble across a GVT article and start it up the next week. Sure, you can get away with almost anything…for a short period of time. I’d leave this routine for the 21 year old who wants to punish himself in order to get jacked.

As far affecting power goes, that can be managed by using it at the right time and in the right place. You could use an “advanced” form of GVT,  and use 10 x 6 to have a little more emphasis on relative strength and, perhaps, result in a little less fatigue.

Ya I definitely was not planning on trying this, and if I did it would be over the summer when I restart my training to maybe get myself over the 150lb mark.

If you have a mass deficiency this type of training can be effective. If you don’t have a mass deficency these methods could destroy your career. This was fairly popular 15 years ago…when absolute mass training was more popular.

Can I ask what the problem with tempo is? To me its no different than bringing a stop watch to running practice or bringing a tape measure to throws practice.

I occasionally use tempo counts on my workouts but I think the difference is that they can have the potential to change the muscle dynamics of an exercise all together….that doesn’t happen with running workouts or throwing workouts. For example, a 3-1-3 is very different physiologically from a no tempo Olympic lifting squat where no tempos are used (but are probably 1-0-1).

i dont liked this high volume methods, poliquin is great trainer, but i see more benefit in low volume for increse mass , and is better for recovery