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Posted: 09 February 2004 02:24 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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We have our first indoor meet on March 12th, and i'm going into the season as the number 1 long jumper. I'm excited about this mee, because i think i can jump 20'+. My coach told me that I'm also gonna be the number one high jumper since our jumper graduated. I have a month to learn to HJ. I've done it before and know the basic form, but I have trouble getting my hips and butt over the bar. Can anyone give me some tips to learn how to do it?

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Posted: 10 February 2004 07:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Learn to run the curve and takeoff correctly and you won't be able to stop your hips from getting over the bar. It's the curve that sets up the rotation in the air.

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Posted: 13 February 2004 03:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Is there any correlation between the LJ approach and HJ approach that may help me?

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Posted: 18 February 2004 08:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Originally posted by Who got em?
Is there any correlation between the LJ approach and HJ approach that may help me?

The first 5 steps should be roughly the same for the long jump, pole vault, triple jump, and the high jump. If you learn to accelerate, apply forces and progress through body angles correctly you'll be much more successful at all the jumps.

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Posted: 07 March 2004 12:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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What are some things you would recommend to get someone to kick faster. [The reason I ask is because its what screwed me(other than a crappy track) yesterday at the NYSPHSAA Championship meet]

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Posted: 07 March 2004 12:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Do you mean kick the legs after the hips have cleared the bar? If so, the best way in my mind is to tuck the chin to the chest. This will cause the legs to kick out by the action-reaction relationship.

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Posted: 07 March 2004 02:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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I did mean that. I already knew that I had to pull the chin to the chest, but is there a training technique that i could use to make it so i kick faster for higher heights?

Are there any techniques that do the same thing when training at a lower height?

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Posted: 07 March 2004 08:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Originally posted by Daa20
I did mean that. I already knew that I had to pull the chin to the chest, but is there a training technique that i could use to make it so i kick faster for higher heights?

It seems as if you are actually attempting to make slight modifications to your technique throughout the course of the competition based on the height of the bar. In my opinion, this is a mistake. I think you should pretty much be attempting to perform the exact same jump every time (even at lower heights). Doing otherwise would mean that you're essentially attempting to do something less than your best jump in a competition. If you're trying to "pace" your efforts and / or energy, I think you'd be better off jumping with maximal effort and optimal technique on every jump but just starting at higher height rather than the overly conservative heights that have to be attempted as a result of "pacing" your energy. As for further technical advice, the only thing I can think of is being more active with the chin tuck and being sure to have your arms close to your side to help speed rotation around the bar. I'd also be sure to check the takeoff and the final 4 steps leading up to it as these 4 steps determine most of what happens in the air. Dave do you have anything to add or refute here?

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Posted: 08 March 2004 02:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Mike is dead on here.

You jump at 100% and enter the competition later if is your wish.

One thought about bar rotation / clearing of…
 
is (assuming a left foot takeoff)
What is your right arm doing from ground release to your top of the bar position?

If as I would currently guess, it is continually lengthening above the head and away from the torso, then the "action/reaction"
most times, is to "touch out"  bringing the hand/arm forward towards the knee causing an extreme sit out on top of the bar.
Using an arm block will transfer some swing energy to the body whole and better still, will facilitate lay out of the arms at the side.
This will speed bar rotation and then the tuck of the chin will be more appropriate and effective.

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