LOL. I do talk alot of shit. Im from a scummy town. Makes sence to me that i must have good speed, not including that 1 off test with no speed work, 5 min warm up before it because my car broke down and was late, straining achilles right away because i pushed my car up a hill… and still beat all the other guys there who jumped further than me at that time. When another jumper saw me do my 787 foul (i think he was a 7.20 guy), he was convinced i was a sub 10.5 runner, i actually false started that day so didnt get a chance.
I know my power to weight is good, but without technical work you gotta be pretty fast to jump that. Plus i had loads of sprinters to compare to in training.
i leave the site for a few days and look what happens…. oh well, at least it makes my forum look popular. that sounds awesome james, must be loving the weather etc out there. never really been a huge fan of setting targets in terms of distance, normally wait till i’ve started competing before i get a real idea of how far i can jump. wanna go 16m as soon as i can though so ideally it will happen this year. will have to wait and see i guess. what about you?
joe, everything actually looks really nice. but your shoulders are very tight, they need to loosen up to allow everything else to fully extend. take off looks powerful though. and keep upright, when i land well i have tried to pretend im sitting in a chair and stay upright and straight.
Matt, nice job on 15+ this year btw. And 7.80-7.90 is the target, i always find targets work well for me so i like setting them. they excite me.one thing i noticed about you before when i jumped against you is you have a very muscular upper body. Just a suggestion, perhaps less muscle up top would equate to some distance? from february onwards i dont lift upper body and lose about 6-7 lbs gradually and i jump further the lighter i get, all part of that peaking process.
Matt Norquist (WashedupDec) - 04 November 2010 01:55 PM
Re: Classic Old School Programs.
Is a very interesting discussion, actually. Many multi-coaches and athletes follow that approach too (Clay, Janvrin’s group, for example).
I’d argue that model probably works OK for exceptionally fast athletes - but not so much for the rest of us. However, using old school long to short model, Clay only went from a 10.51 HS PB to current best of 10.35. Despite 10 years of training, huge strength gains, etc.
This is personal opinion - but part of me thinks the training means necessary for someone with an upper limit of 10.7 100m speed (for example) to reach that potential are different than what is necessary for someone with a 9.7 upper limit to reach their capacity.
I also think short to long programs are simpler to plan and periodize. Also simpler to modify in stream. And you can still make plenty of “deposits” in the training bank.
I heard Mike use a good analogy…....Old school training or training with high volume of intermediate intensity in running can be looked at as the same as using that same intensity range for weights. You can get really strong lifting weights that way as well.
only problem I have with setting distance targets is that if you hit your target early it may prevent you from going even further as subconsciously you are satisfied with where you are. I think that in the triple jump especially until you hit your physical limit, you can put massive amounts of distance on your pb in a short space of time which makes it hard to predict what you are capable of jumping. Personally, I prefer to get myself in shape to jump far and then see what happens. I reckon it’s more exciting that way. Yea your right about my upper body, when I was younger I used to love lifting upper body weights and didn’t really have any idea what I was doing so got massive/heavy (at one point I was doing upper body weights sessions 5/6 days a week whilst triple jumping!). Luckily I’ve developed some common sense and except for cleans and a few press-ups in a circuit I havn’t done any upper body weights for the best part of 2 years. A couple of years ago I weighed something like 95kg but I now hover around 80kg so makes it easier to get off the ground! I’m still probably too big in my upper body but thats just a legacy of the weights I used to do.
So i just wondered if anyone checked the 2011 outdoor TJ marks on the IAAF lists yet…
Female TJ is quite amazing really. Men’s also obviously. But for the women, GB hasn’t had a 14m girl is aaaages and even the USA hardly produce any (although my girl will do it this year), anyway how do CUBA do it? Is it just a game of numbers?
Maybe the rest of the world is more interested in sprinting or other events on the women’s side but Cuba seem to love it. I know Edwards said in his commentary he thought the women should be edging on 16m a few years back (Trecia Smith).
thats ridiculous, don’t understand how they can produce that many 14m jumpers and yet we can’t produce any. surely (if they’re not already) uk coaches should be finding out what those cuban girls are doing and replicating it with uk athletes. must be doing something wrong as i don’t believe that we don’t have any women who are genetically capable of jumping 14m. has to be a flaw in the coaching