Charlie's 10.3# is not elite, I did that my jr year in college. JJ's 10.25 is a lot better, but it's not elite. I've trained with a few 10.20 guys that can't tell you what the hell they are doing. I've also had training partners that have gone sub 20( that I could stay with) and they can tell you what they thought about to keep them on task during a race. I know I will get a lot of slack for not saying what qualifies me to talk about elite sprinting, but I can live with it.