[quote author="davan" date="1257989181"]
The thread is about maximal strength. Heavy olympics lifts will factor in, but when talking about doing heavy, max force lifts, they ought not be included for numerous obvious reasons. If you follow the thread, this difference has already been covered.
Not really. Olympic lifts involve less force almost by definition than a squat or deadlift. The discussion was about the need to lift >85% to improve max strength athletes effectively. 100% of an Olympic lift is not reaching the force requirements defined by that, which is what the issue has been. I mean, you could include shot and medball throws or standing long jumps as stuff done >85% if you want to include non-maximum force lifts in the equation.
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Perhaps you misunderstood again, which isn’t uncommon. I think Olympic lifts can improve max strength and they have many qualities which will carry over; however, they do not fit the requirement of being a high force lift to improve max strength (ie >85% in a static lift) to fulfill your qualifiers made earlier.