Welp I’m not surprised, we got a powerlifter promoting powerlifting programs yet again when the discussion is about strength training in the context of non-powerlifting athletes.
I’m still waiting to hear the numbers of raw (and at the very least drug tested) powerlifters using normal stances (meaning non-extreme squat and bench positions) in comparison with natural bodybuilders. The numbers I have seen from national level natural bodybuilders are quite impressive even when consisting of very little “maximum strength” work and work predominantly 5 reps and over.
Of course, Charlie has already pointed numerous times that his athletes never squatted above their 6RM and generally much below. Looks like it hurt them ;).
Mr. naysayer strikes again. Did you get those numbers out of Flex or Muscle and Fitness? Why don’t you post your own training plan. You’re quick to critique, but never willing to actually put something out there for the forum to discuss.
And its just flat baloney to say that historically, bodybuilders have been as strong as powerlifters. Its just garbage. As I’ve written several times, the line is blurred in recent years as few bodybuilders fail to do strength work, and few powerlfters fail to do hypertrophy work. And to say that chemicals have anything to do with it is ridiculous. PED use is just as, if not more, rampant in bodybuilding as it is in powerlifting.
But stop wining and put your own plan up for the group to compare.