[quote author="star61" date="1369087368"]Vitamin B-6 is one of the main ingredients in ZMA. I know a couple of other guys who thought ZMA and B-6 would improve performance in speed-power athletes…Conte and Charlie Francis. I’m wondering if we should blow off everything Charlie had to say about speed-power development because he too believed in the merits of ZMA and B-6?
Strawman much? Charlie never claimed that ZMA will take off any amount of time from your 100m. Those are micronutrients which are deficient in many people, so ZMA might help.
On the other hand, Bondarchuk makes this claim:
YJ: What supplements did you find valuable?
AB: We found that using the whole complex of vitamin B could help add 3-4 meters to a throw.
He also says steroids only give 5-6 meters, so basically he is claiming a B complex is roughly on par with steroids. Yeah.[/quote]Just because someone points out the obvious doesn’t make it a strawman argument. You’re totally rejecting all advice from a person because of a position he has on supplements, right or wrong. My point was simply that Charlie believed in the benefits of ZMA, none of which have ever been proven. But that’s no reason to reject him out of hand. Obviously they have both had coaching success and might actually have some valid points to consider. Rejecting everything someone says because you disagree with one position they have is just silly.