Probably the level that we deal with because it's very rare at the level we are at that we'll encounter and olympic caliber athlete. it's easy to look at what mj, xman, wariner, etc have done and think that it works, but for every 1 great athlete there are some that don't excel on that program. You had williamson and wariner…. but teter was the stud of that class. for every great athlete there are some that dont' live up to the hype and that goes for every level in my opinion.