[quote author="tothetop" date="1228957969"]dbandre- I have no problem ever being wrong, but I was posing those points as questions, not my beliefs. I took things I have heard, and put them into thoughts and then ultimately questions for discussion. I am just trying to learn.
“The biggest waste of time is spending more time in the weight room than do more sport specific movements.”
I think you are trying to say that its not enough just to lift heavy weights and run and that athletes need to do specifc power work (15-30%)… but i am not clear because you are missing a word or two in that sentence. Please explain.
I appreciate your reply and I agree with you about Vern, great mind, great coach. You still didnt answer the specific question about isolate to integrate or not. Charles Poliquin is extremely smart, and he has gotten world class athletes better. I dont think its the number of athletes that someone trains that makes them great.
As questions then they would be false or rather more false than true.
Replace “do” with “doing”.
Not really, I think lifting weights has importance, but I think if you are looking long term and your athlete is at or near the body composition they need to be to handle training loads and be competitively successful at their position/events within their level of competition then I don’t think heavy lifting is going to cut it. I think you have to work the full spectrum on loading (velocity, mass, and volume). The 15-30% numbers are from studies, although OL’s require a higher load to be more powerful (60-85% max). Some claim there is no transfer in power, I don’t believe in that claim. In fact the theory on bodyweight activities is that reducing mass (making yourself lighter without doing so by about 10%) would elicit the greatest power numbers.
Integrated motion is how we learn to move. It’s how infants learn to move and this follows through adulthood, it’s how previous catastrophically injured people learn to move in therapy. You build specific strength for the activity by doing the activity. Strength builds over time, but with strength you need the coordinative structures to move.
I really don’t want to get too involved on the subject of Poliquin. I think he’s more of a guru. Of course, he like many others disagrees with my approach to using the powerlifts before olympic lifts, I use the powerlifts to activate the musculature for better olympic lifts, especially the deadlift. My personal belief is I don’t think isolation is what makes people better. I think progressive and specific training is how we get better. Maybe, isolation works well for Elite athletes, but isolation insists on working on weaknesses while the rest of the system suffers from a lack of stimulus. In my opinion and experience this does not work well with developmental athletes.[/quote]
Also, don’t know where you got your info, but the approach of using powerlifts, not only before, but even at the exclusion of olympic lifts, is one that is fully embraced by Charles.