The brands you recomended are fine. You are right they cannot be refrigerated when shipped. But that leads me to another thing. I work at vitamin shoppe. When we get them they are not refrigerated until we get them! But i am not sure how long they are left unrefrigerated because we are constantly getting shipments. I tihnk rather than ordring them going ot a vitamin shoppe near you or another vitamin store may be a better idea.