[quote author="the_chosen_one" date="1312931694"]This is laughable. You’ve shown data that is within hundredths of each other. Show splits of someone who ran slower than 4.0. Do you think for one minute these guys are throtteling back? LOL…Leroy Burrell didn’t win obviously, not because his acceleration or 30m time was inadequate but because his top end speed & speed endurance was not as good as Carls. The data points this out! Look at the splits. Moreover, Leroy was much more muscular and powerful than Carl as stated by Tellez serveral times which would correlate to his 30m being faster.
Further more, the better sprinters maximize stride rate throughtout the start by leveraging their strenghth to produce horizontal forces. The by product of producing maximal horizontal forces is a “fast or faster 30m” It is proper mechanics that will allow you to produce the forces required to run faster. Bottomline as I stated, your 30m time is an indicator for the rest of the race. Again, look at the splits,
Never put the cart before the horse. As most have said, Strength ie squats etc and specific strength ie hills or sled pulls are required to improve your 30m time.
ok im going to tear your argument down peice by peice lol.
1. Do I think these guys are throttling back? no but they are accelerating correctly and efficiently. Just because its a fast 30m to you doesn’t mean its a fast 30m for them. 3.8 and 3.7 for carl lewis and leroy burrell is different then 3.7-3.8 for joe blow trying to run 10.7. Carl and Leroy are going thru the phases of their race and hitting these times and joe blow would probably pop a blood vessel in his brain from trying to hit those times and the only way he would hit the same times is by being quick. 30m is so early in the race that you can do alot of stuff wrong and still look good. The body can go all out for 7 secs. If we were talking just a 30m dash, quick would be good but we are talking 100m. running faster then 4.0 for 30m says you can accelerate but it doesn’t say you can accelerate correctly.
2.I didn’t say he lost because of his 30m time. The point I’m trying to make is some one with a slower 30m time can still win a race. HINT HINT getting to 30m FIRST isn’t that important. yeah of cource carl’s speed endurance was better but carl’s speed endurance was better then maurice greene’s also but maurice would beat him in the 100m. He was stronger then carl but he knew how to gradually come out of his drive phase and not be quick to 30.
3. Squates, hills, sleds help condition your body and get it the tools it needs acceleration. It doesn’t mean you are going to do it correctly.
https://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/08/analysis-of-bolts-958-wr.html
Check this page leroy Burrel 30m was faster then tyson gay, asafa powell and tied with Bolt. Doc patton for 3.93 and ran 10.3 in this race. lol Im going to guess leroy was a little quick in this race because I don’t think anybody can accelerate better than asafa powell and leroy’s 30m was faster then his. But then again he may have just been on.
however you’re missing the whole ship buddy. Im trying to tell you is if you run 30 in under 4 the right way thats good but if you bust your whole load to get to 30 in under 4.0 then you will lose if you are going against good smart sprinters. Telling a younger kid he needs to be 3.8 to be fast is wrong. A younger kid may have to be 3.99 at 30m in order for him to accelerate efficiently. Most elite sprinters hit 30m in 3.8-3.9 and they still tie up which leads me to believe alot of them are hitting 3.8-3.9 trying to be quick. Steve mullings even said the difference in his race is that he stopped trying to be rushing.
https://www.trackalerts.com/news/lead-stories/4676-mullings-not-scared-of-bolt-and-powell
“I just figured it out, how to do it,” Mullings said. “I always rushed my first 30 metres, (but) now I have more patience.
IM DONE LOL[/quote]
Looks like we know exactly what he figured out. Do you still want to use this as an example? I’m thinking not.