2009 College (and Unattached) Tracksters Unite!

First meet is the 17th very excited.

22.68 season opener in NYC. Relaxed too much on the backstretch.
400 meters on Friday.

Its ok. Last year same meet I ran 22.69 but it was my 3rd meet last season. This year it was my first meet.
Hows the track??…lol NYC Armory.. I’d say its pretty damn good 😉

50.85 400 Season Opener (4th 400 ever run indoors) Lane 3

Quik I have to give you a lot of credit man–you have been at it for a while and are still improving on your results over time. It’s pretty cool to see that.

Davan-
thanks man. It literally took me 10 years to figure out what works for myself and my 2 training partners and within the last 2 years we all hit pr’s. The best is yet to come.
When are you running again?
Shout out to Carl Valle. We have finally met (today in NYC).

Whats your training focus been?

Build work capacity, lactate tolerance, endurance for the 400 (train for it and race it at meets) which will enable us to maintain our natural speed to run a good 200 while not burning out(staying healthy)as the year progresses.

Well I just had my first meet and there were some good points and very crappy points.

I got to talk to drivephase for a little bit and he looked pretty good today. He ran 6.56 I think in the prelims and then 6.59 in the final of the 55m (winning this very slow meet). I was in neither heat of his, but he ran very easy today with little to no competition at any point.

As for my meet, I started out by false starting in the prelims. I have never false started in my life (in track, in football, anything) and I was really disappointed in myself for that. Now, that starter had held us there for 4-5 seconds and the people to each side both twitched, but there is still no excuse for that.

I begged the meet directors to let me run in the final though. There were only two heats of prelims and there were supposed to be two heats of finals, so everybody made it. They let me run in the slow/1st section. I had a great start that time around, but around 20-25m or so I had an extremely sharp pain in my foot that I have had my plantar fascia issues with (right foot). I shut it down before I got to 30m and I hobbled through the line. I went 6.65, which I think is pretty decent given the circumstances. I talked with a guy and got to see his video (hopefully he will be e-mailing me a copy) and my last 10m was around 1.3, so I was slowing down pretty significantly. My start and acceleration was great–my foot just couldn’t handle it I guess. It felt great this morning and in my warm-up, so I was pretty surprised it gave me such problems.

Anyway, now I am finally back home and I have minimal pain in my heel (which had been the issue the past 2.5 months or so), but I now have a significant amount of tightness in the arch of my foot. I really am not sure what the deal is with this–if it is an injury, a cramp, or what. I’ll find out more tonight and tomorrow based on any pain/inflammation/etc.

The meet has really boosted my confidence from a standpoint that I know I am in great shape. I ran a 30m training PR (well not sure if it is PR because FPS is such crap, but it is at worst very close to training PR) and then today I probably went through 20-30m at a significant PR before I dropped off.

Now that I’m done writing that novel of an entry, looking forward to hearing how everyone else did this weekend.

i blew like the wind. 7.28 60m. i currently have the top speed of lenoard scott on sleeping pills.

Well I just had my first meet and there were some good points and very crappy points.

I got to talk to drivephase for a little bit and he looked pretty good today. He ran 6.56 I think in the prelims and then 6.59 in the final of the 55m (winning this very slow meet). I was in neither heat of his, but he ran very easy today with little to no competition at any point.

As for my meet, I started out by false starting in the prelims. I have never false started in my life (in track, in football, anything) and I was really disappointed in myself for that. Now, that starter had held us there for 4-5 seconds and the people to each side both twitched, but there is still no excuse for that.

I begged the meet directors to let me run in the final though. There were only two heats of prelims and there were supposed to be two heats of finals, so everybody made it. They let me run in the slow/1st section. I had a great start that time around, but around 20-25m or so I had an extremely sharp pain in my foot that I have had my plantar fascia issues with (right foot). I shut it down before I got to 30m and I hobbled through the line. I went 6.65, which I think is pretty decent given the circumstances. I talked with a guy and got to see his video (hopefully he will be e-mailing me a copy) and my last 10m was around 1.3, so I was slowing down pretty significantly. My start and acceleration was great–my foot just couldn’t handle it I guess. It felt great this morning and in my warm-up, so I was pretty surprised it gave me such problems.

Anyway, now I am finally back home and I have minimal pain in my heel (which had been the issue the past 2.5 months or so), but I now have a significant amount of tightness in the arch of my foot. I really am not sure what the deal is with this–if it is an injury, a cramp, or what. I’ll find out more tonight and tomorrow based on any pain/inflammation/etc.

The meet has really boosted my confidence from a standpoint that I know I am in great shape. I ran a 30m training PR (well not sure if it is PR because FPS is such crap, but it is at worst very close to training PR) and then today I probably went through 20-30m at a significant PR before I dropped off.

Now that I’m done writing that novel of an entry, looking forward to hearing how everyone else did this weekend.

Sharp pains in the foot that don’t happen when you get out bed are potentially disastrous. Get it checked out by the most competent individual you know. For all the hatred we spew towards each other I would hate see your season ruined.

Yes, I know the potential problems of this. I am seeing my podiatrist Monday and hopefully getting an MRI soon as well to see what the exact problem is. I hope it isn’t serious and it is rather odd because there is minimal to no pain right now when applying pressure to various areas around the foot, but it is a bit difficult to walk. I’ll know more tomorrow (getting therapy, I believe) and definitely more in the coming days.

maybe you should sit out and wait till the damn thing is healed?

I ran a 6.44 at the almuni meet in lax today I won.

I ran a 6.44 at the almuni meet in lax today I won.

Nice start to your season…

Thanks Ut I think i should give you a tiny bit of credit since you helped me out a lot during the summer changing my ways from doing balls out hill sprints to focusing on Olympic lifts.

Thanks Ut I think i should give you a tiny bit of credit since you helped me out a lot during the summer changing my ways from doing balls out hill sprints to focusing on Olympic lifts.

Nope, you did the work and was open minded enough to listen and make changes at the end of the day.

🙂

Davan- did you get your foot looked at yet?

The UW-Whitewater meet on the 24th usually has great competition for early in the season if you feel like a drive. Last year danny won with a 6.3x and there were a few of us in the 6.4’s. If you’re healthy you should give it a thought.

Missed this post. I would have loved to and it was actually one of the meets on my schedule, but…

Diagnosis is partial tear of the PF–waiting for analysis of the MRI. It is feeling pretty decent, but I am going to give it a long rest I think.

It would have been cool to have a little ET meet-up–next year I guess.

And Win is right I should have rested more–big mistake on my part that I should have realized much sooner. It was a combination of me being a bit over-ambitious about things and advice from multiple medical professionals that was also probably a bit over-ambitious/risky.

[quote author="00Scoots" date="1232009411"]Davan- did you get your foot looked at yet?

The UW-Whitewater meet on the 24th usually has great competition for early in the season if you feel like a drive. Last year danny won with a 6.3x and there were a few of us in the 6.4’s. If you’re healthy you should give it a thought.

Missed this post. I would have loved to and it was actually one of the meets on my schedule, but…

Diagnosis is partial tear of the PF–waiting for analysis of the MRI. It is feeling pretty decent, but I am going to give it a long rest I think.

It would have been cool to have a little ET meet-up–next year I guess.[/quote]

Next year, you may have a chance this year to do some damage.

Thanks Ut I think i should give you a tiny bit of credit since you helped me out a lot during the summer changing my ways from doing balls out hill sprints to focusing on Olympic lifts.

I like your quote

thanks Carl.

D. get better soon bro.
Winning, Scoots good early results guys.

Todays meet kinda sucked. HARVARD. Lane 6 400 51.10 Lane 6 200 22.79.
My only saving race for the 200 (aside from the harvard track being rather slow) is it was my first time ever doubling indoors (400,200) and they messed up the heat seeds so instead of being in heat 1 lane 1 I changed my heat to heat 8 lane 6 and second place in my heat was 25.4x.

Next week Terrier Classic at BU!

It usually takes me one meet for my body to get used to the double. Last season (outdoors) at the end of the season I actually PR’d in both the same day (49.52, 21.98). Running them the same day makes the 200 feel short and I somehow manage to finish stronger coming off of a 400 race. Its weird I can’t really explain it.
Next week same thing. 400/200. Times should be much better. My training partner who opened up in 22.41 ran 23.05 today out of lane 2. I think the track just sucks. Maybe Dave or Carl can shed some light about how slow (if at all) this track is compared to NYC and BU.

Thanks Quik!

Thats not a bad time for the 2 having no competition and coming off of a 400. The 400/200 double ruins me. I can handle the 200->4×4 MUCH better than a 400/200.

What are you running next week?

Scoots, are you running the deuce at Whitewater or just the 55m?

Oy, I just saw the heat sheets for the meet tomorrow in Hampton, VA.

My first real meet in a couple years and I’m running the 200m in good ol’ lane one… Oddly enough I have the fastest seed time in the heat.

Boston University. Terrrier Invit. 2 PR’s 49.93, 22.37

Thanks brotha. U too. 6.3 a pr?????? Good shit man. You should be in the mix tp 3 at ncaas!

Cool so you’re way ahead of where you were at this time last year.

Here are my videos from this weekend on Flotrack..
200-22.37
https://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234504/128294

400-49.93
https://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234504/128384

Lane 5 in both. White and Neon Green uniform.

good runs. lol you are always in the middle of name confusion. did you enter yourself as jason, justin, and jerome manekoff to ensure you got an outside lane?

lol.

Incase anyone is curious these were my 400 splits off of dartfish so they are FAT..
23.73 36.53 49.93
Third 100-12.80 Last 100-13.40

23.73/26.20 2.47 Differential

Yeah I’m [b]only[/b] doing the 55, 4×2 and 4×4.

I haven’t heard too many sprinters of your caliber say this before

(edit with bold for emphasis)

good runs. lol you are always in the middle of name confusion. did you enter yourself as jason, justin, and jerome manekoff to ensure you got an outside lane?

I have seen this first hand on multiple occasions. Even seen some guy sneak in to a meet he was banned from competing in and then step on to the track in a race he wasn’t even entered in 😉

lol.

Incase anyone is curious these were my 400 splits off of dartfish so they are FAT..
23.73 36.53 49.93
Third 100-12.80 Last 100-13.40

23.73/26.20 2.47 Differential

Great race distribution. Do you do anything specifically to work on that or does it just come naturally? I know you haven’t run too many quarters so I’m kinda curious.

[quote author="Mike Young" date="1233150008"][quote author="00Scoots" date="1232505861"]Yeah I’m [b]only[/b] doing the 55, 4×2 and 4×4.

I haven’t heard too many sprinters of your caliber say this before

(edit with bold for emphasis)[/quote]

Haha, I guess I’ve gotten used to being a workhorse on the team.[/quote]

You seem to always pay for it late outdoor season..

[quote author="QUIKAZHELL" date="1232961878"]lol.

Incase anyone is curious these were my 400 splits off of dartfish so they are FAT..
23.73 36.53 49.93
Third 100-12.80 Last 100-13.40

23.73/26.20 2.47 Differential

Great race distribution. Do you do anything specifically to work on that or does it just come naturally? I know you haven’t run too many quarters so I’m kinda curious.[/quote]

This was only my 3rd quarter indoors (since I have been training specifically for it). Outdoors last season I ran 4 quarters and finished in 49.52.
Regarding my race disribution and specific work yes…. since Sept. we have done a ton of lactate work to improve our lactate tolerance. We have also done alot of race modeling working on race distribution. The splits we have hit during sessions such as 200/200, 250/150, and 300/100 has coorelated to our meet times.

I wish I ran on a banked track id go sub 22 easy.

[quote author="utfootball4" date="1233179973"][quote author="00Scoots" date="1233172191"][quote author="Mike Young" date="1233150008"][quote author="00Scoots" date="1232505861"]Yeah I’m [b]only[/b] doing the 55, 4×2 and 4×4.

I haven’t heard too many sprinters of your caliber say this before

(edit with bold for emphasis)[/quote]

Haha, I guess I’ve gotten used to being a workhorse on the team.[/quote]

You seem to always pay for it late outdoor season..[/quote]

The injuries have always been freak accidents or me being too stupid to pull out of a race when my hamstring wouldn’t loosen up.

Being sick for every nationals I’ve ever raced in though? Yeah, I’m gonna say thats from having to over do it at conference.[/quote]

i give you props for being a team player..

I did, hep 5443 and hj- 2.14

inch and half pr in hj, but 60 points under my hep

Damn it, Rock is at this meet this weekend in the 200 and I’m pulling the 55, 400 combo. ARGH!

He’s clearly avoiding you 😉

Even though i’m in highschool i’m entering the BU Valentine Invitational unnattached this coming saturday the 14th for LJ. Any1 else going?

I’ll be there. 200/400

Good meet tonight 🙂
Auto’d in the 55 with a 6.34

good job dude. make sure your coaches take care of you and don’t use you for too many events in one meet. i think this year might be time for some “me” time.

Nice job Scoots. You’re a workhorse.

I ran the 200m at Christopher Newport in VA yesterday. 23.1 out of lane 2 of a flat track. Those tight curves have never agreed with me.

Thankfully that was my last indoor meet and I have a few solid weeks of training ahead.

does anyone know if EAST STROUDSBURG’s indoor track is banked? or has a list of all the banked tracks

Good meet tonight 🙂

Auto’d in the 55 with a 6.34

4×2 split was a 21.5 on leadoff again, but the 2-3 exchange biffed so still no time. We were 15 or so meters in first at the time, and the time that won was a 1:31 so take that for what its worth.

Provo’d in the 400 with a 49.66, but I really do need to learn how to run that race efficiently. I was in lane six and only took the first 200 out in a 23.3.

Good stuff man!
You first 200 split was actually fine for what you ran after you add f.a.t. to it. 49.66-23.54= 23.54/26.12 That is a 2.58 differential.
But I agree for a Sub 22 open runner you should be able to take it out in 23.0-23.20 and bring it back in 25 for a 48.

Nice job man–impressive triple.

Foot feels pretty good. MRI turned out to diagnose it as the doctor imagined–torn PF. Two more weeks before I am supposed to get into weight bearing stuff, but I’ve been out of the boot for a couple weeks now with no issues.

I’ve been biking and doing some swimming. I also have been doing upper body weights and got two PRs–incline db press with 100lb dbsx6 and 92 push-ups (chest touch and lock out arms).

Are you going to be running the 400 @ nat’s if you qualify?

Are you going to be running the 400 @ nat’s if you qualify?

55m & 400m….that would be very good range. Seems like many of the top sprinters are doing better at all-around sprinting now though. You’d be the mini X-man.

Good meet tonight 🙂

Auto’d in the 55 with a 6.34

4×2 split was a 21.5 on leadoff again, but the 2-3 exchange biffed so still no time. We were 15 or so meters in first at the time, and the time that won was a 1:31 so take that for what its worth.

Provo’d in the 400 with a 49.66, but I really do need to learn how to run that race efficiently. I was in lane six and only took the first 200 out in a 23.3.

Wow thats awesome. goodjob. Have you had the chance to do the open 200 yet this year?

Today was alright. I felt kinda flat this week but ran some decent times. 6.35 in finals, 21.9 in the 4×2 and 49 soemthing in the 4×4.

We spent more time on the bus than at the meet though, so my legs were tight and ridiculously heavy.

did winning22 look good?

I was on the second turn for the 200 and he looked good. Relaxed and strong. He hit a good PR in the 200.

I was expecting him to be pumping out 6.3’s by now…

What school does Winning22 go to?

50.48 for me going out in 23.72 (.01 faster than last week) but this time getting caught in traffic (completly my fault) and running the entire 2nd lap in lane 2 coming back .56 slower than last time.
200 22.57 out of lane 6.

Hey Danny, where are you heading this weekend? The Point meet looks like its gonna be quick so far.

iowa.

JUST DO WHAT YOU NORMALLY DO! Don’t change just because it’s simulates nationals. Why change your pre-meet things now. That’s just my opinion. Where are you running Friday?

I never did anything to loosen up during the course of the day when I had a night meet. I just tried to relax as much as I could. Granted it was nationals and hotel room is different from a class room, but I really think you’ll be fine. You should have a lot more concern if you were to race early in the morning after a long bus ride (like last weekend).

Good luck not day dreaming. 3 guys under 6.88 so should be some decent comp. Not a big meet at all.

she and the ref should be slapped…how are they going to have people picking up blocks when they call sweats off

I know man, but my coach put it in a good perspective for me. It should be a great confidence booster because now I know that I can be completely distracted and have a crappy race and still pump out fairly good times, which should make me relax a bit more if something like that happens again.

haha. That sounds EXACTLY like something I would say. In fact, I told that to one of my sprinters just last week.

God would I love today back. I got about 3-4 hours of off and on sleep due to some horrible insomnia. The bus showed up a half hour late and took an extra hour getting to the meet because of the lovely Wisconsin snow storm. I couldn’t get any sleep on the bus because of the driver fishtailing the bus so much on the unplowed freeways.

When I get really stressed out, like from lack of sleep and almost dying on the commute to school and on the bus, the stress does weird things to my body including giving me horrible muscle spasms, which occurred in my hamstrings all day. I had one happen in the blocks for the 55 finals and again halfway through so I just coasted it out. Winning time was a 6.33 so I’m incredibly pissed I didn’t get to give it my all.

I then ran the 200 really tentatively because I was nervous about a spasm happening again and ended up going a 22.09 or something like that.

I thought yesterday was bad, I had no idea today was going to be even worse!

No season is without its frustrating races. It seems this past weekend tested you under the pressure of mental stress, physical and mental distraction, and the personal pressure of maintaining a win streak. The nice thing is that it was not the final exam, you can review and learn from those races lessons that workouts and on-line articles can’t teach you. A small speed bump in a fast season. You had a bad weekend, but became a better sprinter, think about it…

Unusual triple for me tonite in NYC. 60m, 300m, 200m in that order with very little rest.
This was my first 60m of the year I ran 7.16 (We have only done blocks once this year and have done zero true accel work), came back with a huge 300 PR 35.37 (old pr was 35.92) and ran 22.62 for 200. My training partner ran a pr over 60 (7.08 and ran his 3rd best 200 22.27). He didn’t run the 300 though.

nice times, are those banked or flat track?

Thanks. Yea I was happy with the 300. Hopefully I can have a nice drop in my 200 time next Sundday since I am going to run it fresh.
Btw..good 200. Sub 22 on a flat track is quick. You need to make it out here to NYC next year and see what you can really run!

Doing line to line splits it looks like a 23/24.7 or 24.8 200/400 split. Given my 200 PR from that day being a 21.91, should I be taking the first 200 out a little harder? Like around 22.8ish?

Great run Josh.

Thanks UT, but it makes me wonder if I should move up in events, haha.

Heat sheets are out for the UW-SP meet and the 4×4 is going to be HOT

https://athletics.uwsp.edu/documents/2009/3/6/Last Chance Meet.htm

Also- Danny I see you in there, haha!

Dont think Danny is running.

Yeah danny didn’t show cause they wouldn’t take him to finals.

Good news is our 4×4 is going to nattys!

Yeh, he ran an OK time on friday with no comp.

Doing line to line splits it looks like a 23/24.7 or 24.8 200/400 split. Given my 200 PR from that day being a 21.91, should I be taking the first 200 out a little harder? Like around 22.8ish?

These are nearly perfect splits in my opinion.

Congratulations to fellow ET member Scoots for taking home a 2nd and a 3rd at D3 nationals!

Thats awesome, congratulations scoots!

Big congrats! Dude from Springfield was rolling though huh? 6.24 and he’s back next year.
What happened to Eric Theiss in the 400? Why’d he get dq’d? I had him winning after running 48.6 on a flat track earlier in the season, 47.6 at Boston, and a 34.16 300 on that flat cornell track and 6.47 55. He should be able to go 46 outoors.

A d3 race had a shitty start situation and didn’t help matters by making a poor decision? I’m surprised, really I am. 😉

haha

That reminds me of the race I ran this year. I got DQ’d in the prelims after a starter held us in set for 4-5 seconds and the guy next to me rocked forward. I never false started in my life, even in practice…. at least they just put me in the final for that one.

D3 seems to seriously have some of the worst starters I have ever encountered and I have no idea why. It seems as-if they are more worried about tricking people to false start through odd set intervals or not take into consideration extraneous circumstances. When I lived in Europe and competed there, there was always an effort to make sure things were not only fair, but tried to benefit the athletes the most.

An athlete (I think Betters) was pushed off the track at around the 200m mark this weekend at D1 nationals. He actually finished the race, but finished last obviously. They put him in the finals after an appeal.

Not sure, but they won it against some very capable teams, so I imagine it wasn’t too bad. I’m sure getting pushed literally off of the track didn’t help the psyche and it looked from the video he put in a ton of effort to get that time. (basically 200 stop 200 in 48)

21.58 in to a head wind in cold weather is great. That should be sub 21 if training goes well and you get some good conditions.

11.04 in the 100 4th place and DNF in the 4 by 1.

Notes: I need to learn how to run in a straight line I was in the other guys lane the whole time.

It also seemed like in the video I can keep up with the 1st and 2nd place guy at the 65 meter mark then they make a move then fades but then i finish strong but still beats me.

In the 4 by 1 I lead off, the first hand off to the 2nd runner was clean I hit him in the correct spot and stretched so that felt good. On the 2nd exchange i wasn’t watching but I heard that we were doing very well (on pace for some sub 42 mid 41 stuff) but our freshman 3rd runner got out too quick and it wasn’t a clean hand off.. we will work out the kinks though.

[quote author="Mike Young" date="1238929539"]21.58 in to a head wind in cold weather is great. That should be sub 21 if training goes well and you get some good conditions.

Thats been my hope. I’d like to get under 21 this year and then next year (or this year if everything goes extremely well) hit the USATF B standard with legal conditions. Right now my speed endurance definitely feels like it isn’t there, but accel and top speed felt great.

Winning- whats your race distribution for the 100 look like? Are you going balls out for the entirety?[/quote]

Race distribution for the 100m?? LOL

00Scoots:

Has the NACAC web site been under “attack”? The link comes back as an “error” but in trying to access the general address it looks like someone has taken over the site. >:(
I found part of the overall posting from the conference (Aruba Oct 2008, right?) but it does not include all information including the work by Shaver.

Try copying and pasting the full address from above into your browser. If that doesn’t work I can host it and send another link.

Or try this link [url=https://www.nacactfca.org/Shaver – Sprint Training.pdf]Shaver Presentation[/url]

double edit- ok that isn’t working either

I got it to work with https://is.gd/r7nb. Just copy and past the full url “https://is.gd/r7nb”.

Sorry you apparently already said this.

[EDIT: I edited the URL so it will work- M.Y.]

I was going 100% from the time the gun was shot. I got out really well one thing I did notice was that I had a great reaction, my knee was drive was excellent but where my foot touched down was not as good as I wanted it to be.

I got feed back from people who were watching the race at the meet and they said I was right the leaders the whole time but they made at move at 65 and I stayed at my same pace but they said i was closing on the leader towards the end so that makes me pretty excited for the 200. Hoping for a 22 flat or sub 22

If a sub 10 sprinter can’t hold their top speed for more than 20m then there is no way in hell an 11 second sprinter can. He should start having a plan for how he distributes his race, especially if he is running into a headwind or if its cold.

Read Shaver’s presentation from nacactfca.org ( https://www.nacactfca.org/Shaver – Sprint Training.pdf ) around slide 80 and on he talks about race distribution for various distances including the 100.

Sounds all gravy but im with CF, if the athlete is fast enough and fit then they should be ok. Try holding back against Bolt and let me know the results…

drivephase ran pretty good today!

I actually lost track of this thread.
Last weekend at Princeton 50.41 and 22.65 in cold WINDY conditions.
Last night at Randalls Island 50.17 and 22.72 (cold and wet) Still waiting for the results online for a wind reading.
Oh how I love early spring weather in the Northeast.

any one knows open meets in NY/NJ/CT area in the next 3-4 weeks?

drivephase ran pretty good today!

Danny ran 10.72 in what I think was 45 degree weather. Held out of the final and 200m because of a twinge in hammy.

Mike whats your thoughts about holding back in the 100m race.

Holding back effort?

Never really had an athlete do it…at least not fully distributed over the course of the run during the early season. We’ve done it in round formats but that isn’t typically an evenly distributed effort governor…more like ‘just stay in the lead (or 2nd, 3rd, whatever qualifies).’

Jay-
What’s your 400m outdoor PR?

I was watching danny run at the meet i was holding his blocks for both prelims and finals. He got out in the finals and pulled up after two steps. He was looking pretty fast he was ready to roll something fast.

Jay-
What’s your 400m outdoor PR?

49.52 last outdoor season. (It was only my 4th 400 of the year maybe only my 7th ever open…my progression last outdoor was 50.37, 50.18, 50.00, 49.52) I ended my season early to play football. Wonder what I coulda ran had I had 3 mote meets since the weather was just starting to warm up in May. This year indoors I ran 49.93 and 35.37 (300), 22.37 and 22.38 (200) all pr’s.
Why do you ask?

[quote author="Mike Young" date="1239493932"]Jay-
What’s your 400m outdoor PR?

49.52 last outdoor season. (It was only my 4th 400 of the year maybe only my 7th ever open…my progression last outdoor was 50.37, 50.18, 50.00, 49.52) I ended my season early to play football. Wonder what I coulda ran had I had 3 mote meets since the weather was just starting to warm up in May. This year indoors I ran 49.93 and 35.37 (300), 22.37 and 22.38 (200) all pr’s.
Why do you ask?[/quote]

Are you playing football this year?

[quote author="JasonManenkoff (Quikazhell)" date="1239510207"][quote author="Mike Young" date="1239493932"]Jay-
What’s your 400m outdoor PR?

49.52 last outdoor season. (It was only my 4th 400 of the year maybe only my 7th ever open…my progression last outdoor was 50.37, 50.18, 50.00, 49.52) I ended my season early to play football. Wonder what I coulda ran had I had 3 mote meets since the weather was just starting to warm up in May. This year indoors I ran 49.93 and 35.37 (300), 22.37 and 22.38 (200) all pr’s.
Why do you ask?[/quote]

Are you playing football this year?[/quote]
No. I wound up not even playing last year for various reason one being burisits in my heel which I developed which still is a problem as well as the disorganization of football program.

[quote author="utfootball4" date="1239510544"][quote author="JasonManenkoff (Quikazhell)" date="1239510207"][quote author="Mike Young" date="1239493932"]Jay-
What’s your 400m outdoor PR?

49.52 last outdoor season. (It was only my 4th 400 of the year maybe only my 7th ever open…my progression last outdoor was 50.37, 50.18, 50.00, 49.52) I ended my season early to play football. Wonder what I coulda ran had I had 3 mote meets since the weather was just starting to warm up in May. This year indoors I ran 49.93 and 35.37 (300), 22.37 and 22.38 (200) all pr’s.
Why do you ask?[/quote]

Are you playing football this year?[/quote]
No. I wound up not even playing last year for various reason one being burisits in my heel which I developed which still is a problem as well as the disorganization of football program.[/quote]

What happen to all the gear you had to buy?

Hahah Don’t remind me dude!!!!! Its sitting in the trunk of my Honda Civic. Only been used 5 times!! You know anyone thats my size that needs a Medium Shut Helmet (black) or Douglas Shoulder pads let me know. lol

49.52 last outdoor season. (It was only my 4th 400 of the year maybe only my 7th ever open…my progression last outdoor was 50.37, 50.18, 50.00, 49.52) I ended my season early to play football. Wonder what I coulda ran had I had 3 mote meets since the weather was just starting to warm up in May. This year indoors I ran 49.93 and 35.37 (300), 22.37 and 22.38 (200) all pr’s.
Why do you ask?

I just wanted to put the season opener in perspective of all time performances.

And what are you’re thoughts? My goal is to go sub 49 this season.

Should be no problem.

22.28 in the 200 and 10.91 in the 100 not bad for the 2nd meet of the year my 200 i felt tired.

our 4by1 finally got the stick around but with poor hand offs 41.56 i believe was the time.

Good job Winning! Good to see your 4×1 hit pretty well and that you got under 11!

Our 4×1 scratched because one of our guys had a sore hammy so we decided not to run it.

My open events kicked some ass even though the day started off by the bus company forgetting to send us a bus, getting to the meet late, and feeling pretty rushed throughout the morning.

100- 10.54 (2.9w) ( 10.56 (3.1w) prelims)
200- 21.40 (1.8w)

That 200 was ran pretty blah. I had spent WAY too much time in the sun by that point and I felt drained as hell. Next time I’ll remember to hide under the bleachers more.

Good job man, these are the performances i have been waiting for based on your 60-200-400 times. Keep up the great work!

Good job Winning! Good to see your 4×1 hit pretty well and that you got under 11!

Our 4×1 scratched because one of our guys had a sore hammy so we decided not to run it.

My open events kicked some ass even though the day started off by the bus company forgetting to send us a bus, getting to the meet late, and feeling pretty rushed throughout the morning.

100- 10.54 (2.9w) ( 10.56 (3.1w) prelims)
200- 21.40 (1.8w)

That 200 was ran pretty blah. I had spent WAY too much time in the sun by that point and I felt drained as hell. Next time I’ll remember to hide under the bleachers more.

Spending time with Seymour Butts despite having a bad view is needed. I like bleachers where you can still do warmup and cooldown activities which is not always available.

Our relay got 4th place at the drake relays we are pretty dissapointed about our time but I am happy we got 4th place. https://www.facebook.com/home.php#/video/video.php?v=575722532122&ref=mf

theres a facebook link of our 4 by1 at previous meet.

Our relay got 4th place at the drake relays we are pretty dissapointed about our time but I am happy we got 4th place. https://www.facebook.com/home.php#/video/video.php?v=575722532122&ref=mf

theres a facebook link of our 4 by1 at previous meet.

There are always other venues to run times you are satisfied with, but a 4th place at Drake, can only be attained by being 4th place at Drake, regardless of time. The quest for best times often eclipses accomplishments worth being proud of, rarely does the ideal time get run at the ideal venue. The time you’ll be proud of is still out there for you to run…

Thanks J-GO

I prd in the 200 and ran a seasonal best in the 100 last weekend at conferance. I got 3rd in the WIAC in the 100 and i got 5th in the 200 we ran into headwinds the whole day. I ran a 10.87 in the pre’s(bad top speed mechanics) i was ranked 8th. Prelims of the 200 I ran a 22.30 ranked 3rd. Finals: 100:3rd 10.99 -2.4 wind. 200: 22.13(PR) -1.1 wind.

Awesome job Z! I saw the 4×1 DNF. I hope you guys are all healthy and something bad didn’t happen in the race.

Well, I had the wind at my back I got out pretty fast and made up the stagger on lane 6 (oskosh) and yerhot didn’t react as well he wanted to do.. I tried to pass on the inside and hand off behind me but i ended up colliding into him.

So Yerhot was running #2? Did you guys change the order the week or two prior?

relay

improved our relay time to 41.33 we are coming around at the right time sitting 5th in nation in d3

Nice races at the WIAC meet, into a headwind no less, and the 4×100 relay is flying as well. Your hard work and focus are turning into rewards, enjoy!

I Won my first ever college 100 meter dash! I wore a speed suit from 1989 throw back uniform the weather was pretty crappy but i was feeling good. Got in the blocks had a clean start and I notcied I acutally go out and opened up my stride up early. One I could have changed was make a slightly longer transition but i was confortable when i came out of my drive phase. I tend to look just before i cross the line too i hate it but its a habit. I ran a 10.91 into a -1.5. I ran under someone elses name who pull their hamstring yesterday lol since my coach forgot to put me in the race. Our 4 by 1 ran decent despite the wind 41.59 we won but I really want to run in the 41.2’s

Was that the first meet in your new stadium?

Nope it was at augie I ran decent at our stadium. We however prd at the national meet and ran a 41.25! We are running finals in 4 hours so im sitting on my bed getting mentally prepared for this endeavor our team needs to the points to capture this title.

Had the worst thing ever happen to me in my whole career to me. National finals I false started isnt that great because of my false start our team was put out of trophy range. Teammates havent said a word to me either. I dont know why this had to happen to me what should I be thinking right now?

Had the worst thing ever happen to me in my whole career to me. National finals I false started isnt that great because of my false start our team was put out of trophy range. Teammates havent said a word to me either. I dont know why this had to happen to me what should I be thinking right now?

You should be thinking anything but negative self defeating thoughts right now! This is something that happens very often to people i.e. USA dropping baton in the Oly’s. Your teammates will get over it eventually, although this must be tough for you just be strong about it. Take what you can and just be more mentally prepared next time. We all dedicate our time and effort so much to the sport of track that sometimes you need to take a step back and remember why you do it and that there are things in this world that are much more serious and important. Its just a sport and sometimes shit happens. I bet everyone on this forum has a story like yours, its the ones that can brush it off that continue to succeed. I am sorry this happened though.

Z,
My freshman year at LaX I was ranked #1 in the 55m going into the conference meet. The week before I ran a pr of 6.47. In my mind I was ready to go. LaX at that time had won the meet for over 10 years straight. I didn’t make the finals in the 55m, finished 16th or so. I was devastated. I found out later that I was blamed for losing the meet because of the point swing of me not making finals. I went home for break and looked at the results. I made a list that I put on my locker for the outdoor season. That list had the names of every person that beat me. I checked off every name until there was no more to check off. By the end of the outdoor conference meet. I was done crossing out names.

My sophomore year. We were ranked #1 for Nationals. I finished DFL in the 55m at the National Meet and we didn’t win Nationals. Everyone goes through some adversity at some point. Those guys will get over it. If they’re mad at you for false starting, they should consider the 1500m where you had someone ranked #1 going into finals, or in the shot not finishing it off after being ranked #1. My point is, blame goes around to everyone, not one person. It’s a team effort, not and individual effort.

I understand but just think we went through the whole season working our asses off… I stayed disiplined never drank alcohol or stayed up late I woke up every single day of the year thinking about track and field it used to consume my life it dictated on how I do at track meets when I do bad I would take it out on myself be miserable until after indoor. When I did well it was like freaking Christmas for me… I think that I work really hard for this sport and all the time I put in is more than everyone else (but in all reality there is plenty of people working harder some how). After I false started I was just miserable.. I didnt cry but i was tearing myself up on the inside. This year has been a great year in all reality, I mean I prd in everything except the 100 but I stayed more consistent than last year and got better as the year went on(3rd in the 100, 5th 200 at conferance). Ill be alright but it will hurt for a little while longer it will just give me more fuel during the training months. Ill continue to be a student of track and field and keep reading on these boards. Thanks for your thoughts Danny.

Yeah man do not worry. It is part of the game and clearly you didn’t do it of purpose. It’s like missing the game winning free throw, it happens…

Your teammates shouldn’t be thinking negative, if they are they don’t understand the sport and/or are not very good teammates…

Keep your head up…

The greater the rewards, unfortunately mean that the risk and magnitude of any mistakes grow as well. Relations with your teammates can be rebuilt, and with your dedication and positive character, they will be rebuilt. You are in a situation allowing you to display a maturity and resolve that can only occur after a mistake like yours is made. Now granted, sure it would be better to never false start, but that is no longer the case. You can only learn, move on, improve, and become the example of how it should be done after that mistake is made. It is not out of disrespect for teammates & coaches, or lack of concern for what people think that you must have a short memory, but for the simple fact that the sooner you can step forward means you are that much closer to your goal again.