What I want to know is, are these deadlifts mainly using my spinal erectors vs. glute/hams and essentially not being useful for sprinting?
Are these deadlifts useless?
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spinal erectors..
Shitty tech and very dangerous.
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So is this deadlift strength actually beneficial to me right now or no?
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So is this deadlift strength actually beneficial to me right now or no?
Depends, if you train with Barry ross – Yes.. You may be on his record board.
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It does seem like a lot more of the back is being used to lift the weight instead of the ham/glutes…I would think that over a period of time lifting with those heavy loads with that technique can cause injury issues.
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It does seem like a lot more of the back is being used to lift the weight instead of the ham/glutes…I would think that over a period of time lifting with those heavy loads with that technique can cause injury issues.
Are you really Gabe Rivera? Any relation to the Texas Tech football player?
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your legs become straight far too early in the lift placing alot of stress and effore on your back, drop the weight to around 300-20 and rep for 3-5 working on a lower hip starting position. you want your legs to straighten (knee extention) before ext of the hips (standing up straight) but more so as your torso approaches 50degrees of so from vert. (meaning your torso and legs should be extending in sync with your legs slightly earlier than your torso)
but yeah main tip is to drop weight a little and learn to use legs (inc glutes and hammys) a little more.
side note 405 at 150 is strong regardless, but as stated with poor technique your gonna stress your body the wrong way too early in your life/career. incidently in second vid 385, the person shouting at you to ext your hips…tut tut.. if you dont make the lock at first attempt dont stay up, unless your in a PL comp its not worth the stress lol
take a look at this for example…https://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/GluteusMaximus/BBDeadlift.html
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That kind of DL will do you little good. You didn’t even need to post those vids to know that is bad technique. Funny thing, is you could probably pull 4 plates and quarters is you used good technique.
Read up on Dave Tate and Jim Wendler for tips on DL form. It is an easy lift to make progress on. I like it and have used it as a squat alternative (though still keep front squats).
Tips:
1. Get shins as close to bar as possible
2. Hips and shoulders move together
3. Lean back a little as you pull
4. Imagine you’re driving your heels into the floor
5. Really focus on extending your hips once the bar reaches your knees -
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Those are straight leg or stiff leg deadlifts. I believe they’re for your upper hamstrings.
Regular deadlifts are more beneficial for a track athlete
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Ok – where to begin
Those are pretty horrible deadlifts – which I guess you knew or you wouldn’t post them with that title. You get into an almost ok-ish start position, but then totally lose it – back rounds, legs straighten, and then you start to pull. One coaching tip I give my athletes is to try to keep the back at the same angle to the ground as you drive up through the heels. In reality, this won’t happen, there will be movement, especially on heavier lifts, but it helps.
These are not, however, stiff legged deadlifts. Yes, the legs are straight, but, usually, you’d deadlift the weight up and then lower with legs straight or slightly bent (IMO Romanian DLs achieve the same thing, and are safer) and you still wouldn’t want that rounded lower back. In terms of DL being more use to a track athlete than the straight legged versions – many S&C coaches wouldn’t agree. A lot of sprinters and jumpers use stiff legged or romanian DL. I tend to prefer Sumo Deadlifts for my group (not saying I’m right). I’ve had many lifters comment on how much it hits the hammies if they’re usually using standard DL. Either way, they’re all good posterior chain exercises – just stop doing them the way you do in the vids.
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