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    Delayed Transformation questions

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          K Rackley on February 8, 2011 at 8:14 pm #17379

          After being told about Delayed Transmutation in one of the forums, I wanted to know a little bit more information about it, but I actually ended up looking for the wrong thing since D. Transmutation had to do with various workouts assisting to the progress of performance (i hope i’m accurate with this statement). But after doing some research and finding out that Delayed Transformation actually dealt with the acquisition of strength, I had a few questions:

          Does muscular/neural adaption extend beyond just plain soreness?

          Do genetics shorten delayed transformation time?

          Do nutritional supplements (ie. protein, creatine, etc) shorten transformation time?

          I don’t know if I saw this in a chart or if someone said this on the forum, but the process goes of performance gains is (strength > power > speed). Can anyone give any information on this?

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          K Rackley on February 9, 2011 at 8:26 am #105360

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          K Rackley on February 11, 2011 at 6:29 pm #105423

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          Eric Broadbent on February 12, 2011 at 12:39 am #105424

          I’d also like to hear more on this. I know they say it takes 21-28 days or somewhere along those lines for your body to adapt to something you put it through which would extend beyond the soreness you mentioned above but other than that I’d like to hear someones insight on some of the other questions.

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          K Rackley on February 18, 2011 at 12:12 pm #105594

          I’d really like a response to this please.

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          [email protected] on February 24, 2011 at 4:43 am #105744

          I’d really like a response to this please.

          The body will adapt to a single intense training stimulus providing it is allowed sufficient recovery time (see the classic Supercompensation curve). This process will be ‘delayed’ if it is interupted by further intense training stimulae. In that situation it will only be ‘displayed’ when, often after a taper, the training stress is reduced.

          My contention is that, providing loading and frequency are intelligently organised, small but consistent improvements can be made EVERY week. Unfortunately most athletes chronically and grossly overtrain… and so severely limit their development.

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          K Rackley on February 24, 2011 at 8:42 pm #105777

          But what is “recovery time” more so than time to reverse the muscle breakdown that occurred during workout? Can no supplement minimize recovery time?

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          [email protected] on February 24, 2011 at 10:34 pm #105778

          But what is “recovery time” more so than time to reverse the muscle breakdown that occurred during workout? Can no supplement minimize recovery time?

          No supplement, legal or banned, can remove the need for recovery!

          Before you can adapt you must first recover.

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          star61 on February 25, 2011 at 5:01 am #105794

          But what is “recovery time” more so than time to reverse the muscle breakdown that occurred during workout? Can no supplement minimize recovery time?

          You are mixing several issues. Delayed transfromation and adaption are not the same thing. There are many types of delayed transformation. When you stress a muscle beyond its capability, you may actually damage the muscle in the form of microtears. The muscle then needs time to heal and recover. In most cases, recovery from minor trauma realized during a hard workout can take 48-72 hours. If you over do it, you may get a case of DOMS, which could take a few days longer to fully recover. Its a balance act between stressing the muscle hard enough to force an adaption (growth) and stressing it to the point the any possible gains are offset by not being able to train properly due to DOMS. In general, you stress the muscle, allow the muslce to recover and heal, the muscle heals and adapts to this new level of stress, and growth (hypertrophy) and the associated gains in strength are manifest. Adaption is good.

          At some point, however, the muscle has adapted enough so that it no longer forced to adapt further. This is stagnating or reaching a plateau. It is not overtraining. At this point, the stress needs to be altered by increasing the intensity, increasing the volume, increasing the frequency, or changing the exercise enough so that the muscle is now stressed enough to again begin the adaption process.

          Another issue is the stress applied to the CNS. The CNS will malfunction if stressed to hard for too long. Recovery is needed. Even another, albeit related, issue is overtraining. All of these issues are the impetus for periodization of training.

          When I use the term ‘delayed transformation’, I am talking about the realization of performance gains which are a result of training that took place weeks and months before. The training process itself can depress performance temporarily, but after days, or even seveal weeks, you begin to reap the benefits of training. This process is very complicated. I suggest you read up on supercompensation as well as the Dual Factor Theory.

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          star61 on February 25, 2011 at 5:03 am #105795

          Are you asking these questions for general knowledge, or are you trying to optimize your training schedule. If the later, post it up.

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