DOnt have enough strength for cleans/snatches etc?

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          onk on October 9, 2004 at 11:09 pm #9886

          I find it very difficult to do them. Since i am able to squat at least 200, my lower body probably has enough strength to do these but my upper body dont. i dont have enough strength to fully lift tehm up. Should i lower the weights? or train my upperbody? OR maybe is it because my technique isnt correct?

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          Derrick Brito on October 10, 2004 at 12:29 am #33905

          work on your deadlift. also you may be doing it wrong. generally you dont want to be using much upper body strength on OLs

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          onk on October 10, 2004 at 5:34 am #33906

          well.. i do have a really weak upper body. i can max deadlift at around 145. but still cant OL at that weight =X

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          ws100 on October 10, 2004 at 10:26 am #33907

          You are supposed to explode with your lower body so all you really have to do is move your arms, not pull all the weight with your upper body.

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          Mike Young on October 11, 2004 at 12:14 am #33908

          What has been said so far is true…..the upper body should do very little if you are using correct technique in the OLs. Also, you what you stated in your last post makes me think that you’re under the assumption that you should be able to OL as much as you deadlift…..this couldn’t be further from the truch. If you can only deadlift 145 your snatch will probably much max in the snatch will likely be less than 100 pounds and your max in the clean likely wouldn’t be more than 115.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          dma1973 on October 11, 2004 at 3:00 am #33909

          Have to agree with all the comments.

          Starting of the clean is where deads could come in handy. But your best bet is getting a OL coach (or someone who can teach them) to look and help.

          Most people tend to try and snatch the weight of the ground, a cue I use is to push my feet through the floor.

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          pete on October 11, 2004 at 6:14 am #33910

          [i]Originally posted by DMA[/i]
          Have to agree with all the comments.

          Starting of the clean is where deads could come in handy. But your best bet is getting a OL coach (or someone who can teach them) to look and help.

          Most people tend to try and snatch the weight of the ground, a cue I use is to push my feet through the floor.

          I agree that it sounds like you need someone to teach you.

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          Mike Young on October 11, 2004 at 6:58 am #33911

          I thought I should add that as a general guideline if strength:power ratios are good, and technique is sufficient, then the deadlift max should be about 150% of clean max.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          pete on October 11, 2004 at 7:53 am #33912

          [i]Originally posted by mike[/i]
          I thought I should add that as a general guideline if strength:power ratios are good, and technique is sufficient, then the deadlift max should be about 150% of clean max.

          Full or power clean?

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          onk on October 11, 2004 at 10:02 am #33913

          thanks guys i see what you mean by pushing it off with your feet now. After numerous tries,( you are right mike) my max is at 115 … after several attempts in which i drop the weights and almost crushing my toes =-( .. i think i got it. thaaanks

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