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    Dunkers with 50 inch vertical

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          K Rackley on January 19, 2009 at 4:38 pm #15267

          I’m not sure if anybody at this forum has heard, or if there’s been a thread of it, but there’s a group of some of the best dunkers out there called Team Flight Brothers. The greatest skill in the art of dunking I’ve ever seen, but check out their verticals. First video is T-Dub (5’9″):

          Second video is Golden Child (6’1″):

          What’s crazy isn’t just that T-Dub is 5’9″ and can dunk, but Golden Child, in that video, can get his head clearly above the rim. So subtract a 120 inch goal from his head which is 73 inches. Not quite 50, but damn near close. It’s a shame these guys aren’t high/long jumpers.

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          Mike Young on January 19, 2009 at 5:05 pm #76845

          I’ve seen these before. Anyone know if these guys do any training besides there exhibition games and practice?

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          K Rackley on January 19, 2009 at 5:23 pm #76854

          On their site, it says that the dunk program is coming soon as well as a DVD of uncut footage. I’m not sure how long they’ve had the dunk program advertisement up, although it says that if you want either to contact them. You can expect that every kid in high school has sent them thousands of emails demanding the program. They’d probably respond to a reputable biomechanist though 🙂

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          K Rackley on February 17, 2009 at 1:59 pm #78147

          I’m surprised there weren’t more comments…

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          Eager on February 17, 2009 at 2:38 pm #78149

          I thought of this when I saw that 5’9″ Nate Robinson won the NBA dunk contest again this year.

          I watched him in high school. He broke our state record in the 110H (even though he wasn’t state champ that year!) but the more interesting thing was that I watched him long jump only 22’2″ at state in good conditions. That’s a nice jump, but it was obvious to me that no one was working with him on how to long jump, because with the kind of speed and explosion he exhibited then as now, you’d think that at least 24 feet would be a piece of cake. I’ve worked with 22’2 guys before, and those guys were not in his class, athletically. Heck, they weren’t even two classes below him!

          Genetic talent is what it takes, but technique will ALWAYS matter!

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          Avi S (tkxii) on February 17, 2009 at 3:48 pm #78151

          yea i’ve subscirbed to them, they post new vids all the time, so they don’t all have tons of comments. but yea they’re amazing, streetballers as well just train a lot, jump a lot, and buiold 4 foot verticals, the vertical project is a really good program, so is program51, there are tons of programs out there, some work some don’t at all

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          Daniel Andrews on February 17, 2009 at 4:38 pm #78158

          They would be more amazing on a 10′ basket. This white dude has landed on the ground and his hand is a head length from touching the backboard.

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          Mike Young on February 17, 2009 at 4:59 pm #78160

          They would be more amazing on a 10′ basket. This white dude has landed on the ground and his hand is a head length from touching the backboard.

          I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to scam it with 9’6″ rims but that pic is inconclusive to me. It looks like it could be a case of perspective error.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          Daniel Andrews on February 17, 2009 at 5:34 pm #78166

          I reviewed the video and neither guy jumps more than 36 inches off the ground. What’s even more frightening is it becomes painfully obvious each time you watch the videos. Even the part of leaping the guys head doesn’t show the feet leaving the ground and for someone with a 32 inch inseam is still capable of jumping over 5’8″ man with a 36-38 inch running leap.

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          Daniel Andrews on February 17, 2009 at 5:38 pm #78168

          [quote author="dbandre" date="1234868940"]They would be more amazing on a 10′ basket. This white dude has landed on the ground and his hand is a head length from touching the backboard.

          I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to scam it with 9’6″ rims but that pic is inconclusive to me. It looks like it could be a case of perspective error.[/quote]

          I thought so too until you figure he is at or underneath the basket.

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          dan1990 on February 17, 2009 at 10:55 pm #78170

          I’ve seen these before. Anyone know if these guys do any training besides there exhibition games and practice?

          here is adam linkenauger 51 inch running vert jump…..
          started training when he was 15 added 30 inches to his running vert..
          stats about him 5ft 10 173 squat 425 powerclean 285 bench 300..he is a former high jumper

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          Avi S (tkxii) on February 18, 2009 at 5:14 am #78183

          ^ that’s really cool, but i don’t like all of the exercises he has on his other videos, like the isometric bodyweight lunges?? that won’t do much imo. but his stats are impressive

          as for dbandre’s comments, i disagree. in the pic u provided, his hand would barely touch the bottom of the net, and he isn’t underneath the rim, he’s not that close actually, i’m gussing probably a whole bodylength away. and so as a result, the net is maybe 2 feet long maximum, head to end of arm, 2 ft maximum ( i just measured my head to the end of my arm, and it was 21 inches, and im 5’9”) so that would make him about 6’2” or something, which is reasonable. and if the rim was 9’6”, he would be 5’8” in tha picture

          also, the tdub guy is not using a 9’6” inch rim, some of the rims he dunks on aren’t even adjustable, like at 1:05, at the park, so you don’t ball much i assume. His head is about 4 inches off the rim, – the shoes, that’s a 47-48 inch 2footed running vert. perhaps in the 2nd vid, it was 9’6”, when he jumped over the guy, and got his nose to the rim near the end of the video, but they both have 45”+ verts

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          mortac8 on February 18, 2009 at 5:24 am #78184

          I reviewed the video and neither guy jumps more than 36 inches off the ground.

          I can’t see how you can possibly say they are not over 36″ off the ground. I can jump 36″ with a full approach and I am not getting my head above the rim (even if it’s 9’6″).

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 5:53 am #78185

          watch the video mort, but don’t look at the basket in any of them. These guys would have to be jumping over guys 6’9″+ to have 50 inch verticals.

          If you believe it then go buy the video, but these guys aren’t leaping 50″ even with running starts. The other kid posted has about a 42″ running vert MAXIMUM and not a 51″ once you factor in standing on the balls of the feet which adds 5-8 inches in height.

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          Nick Newman on February 18, 2009 at 6:25 am #78186

          dbandre there’s no way your right…

          I’ve played bball for a very long time and those rims ARE 10 feet high!

          A client i have been working with is 5’10 with a max vert of now 38 inches and he can not do anything close to what these guys are doing. I have a max vert of over 40 inches and can’t get THAT high either…

          These guys have ups bro!

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 8:58 am #78187

          idiots, then buy the crap if you believe these guys are jumping 50″ beyond what they can stand and reach.

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          Nick Newman on February 18, 2009 at 9:18 am #78189

          Lol…dude i’m not saying the program is good…im saying these guys can really jump and are amazing dunkers!

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 10:04 am #78190

          It’s not on 10′ foot rims. There is hardly any reference to make me think they are dunking on 10′ rims. Heck the first video looks like he’s dunking at my old elementary school on 9′ rims. I have no doubt they can dunk on a legit 10′ rim and possibly 2 handed, but it’s not windmill 360’s with a between the legs. I’ve been able to dunk for years and my head hits the net on occasion at 5-9/5-10 range almost 6′ with shoes and I only needed to get 6″ above the rim to dunk one-handed which took about a 33″ vert which also put my head into the net. Even with a running vertical of around 40 or so inches at my height my head came close to the rim. How is this possible? 3’4″ plus 6’0″ + 7 inches of rise from plantarflexion puts my head 1 inch from the rim. At your height nick if you have a 40 inch vertical your eyeballs should almost be at rim level.

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          dan1990 on February 18, 2009 at 10:22 am #78191

          idiots, then buy the crap if you believe these guys are jumping 50″ beyond what they can stand and reach.

          adam linkenauger has 51 inch running vertical..44 inch standing vert…he is 5ft 10 hit is head of a 10ft rim..he used to be a pro high jumper…his vert program is really good…heres a review of it.

          https://www.verticaljumping.com/vert_freak.html

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 10:38 am #78194

          [quote author="dbandre" date="1234927744"]idiots, then buy the crap if you believe these guys are jumping 50″ beyond what they can stand and reach.

          adam linkenauger has 51 inch running vertical..44 inch standing vert…he is 5ft 10 hit is head of a 10ft rim..he used to be a pro high jumper…his vert program is really good…heres a review of it.

          https://www.verticaljumping.com/vert_freak.html%5B/quote%5D

          well his video didn’t give the impression of him having a running vert of 51″.

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          K Rackley on February 18, 2009 at 10:47 am #78196

          If you don’t believe those videos, dbandre, there’s about 100 other videos they’ve uploaded of their dunkers. Take a look at their channel. Here’s another video of Golden Child. Clearly, this one is a 10 foot goal:

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          dan1990 on February 18, 2009 at 11:06 am #78197

          [quote author="dan1990" date="1234932749"][quote author="dbandre" date="1234927744"]idiots, then buy the crap if you believe these guys are jumping 50″ beyond what they can stand and reach.

          adam linkenauger has 51 inch running vertical..44 inch standing vert…he is 5ft 10 hit is head of a 10ft rim..he used to be a pro high jumper…his vert program is really good…heres a review of it.

          https://www.verticaljumping.com/vert_freak.html%5B/quote%5D

          well his video didn’t give the impression of him having a running vert of 51″.[/quote]

          i asked how he had such a high vert…and he told me a really inspiring story of how he has increased his vert by 30 inches since he was 15.he weighs 173 and squats 425 DEEP thats pretty strong…he probably has such a good running one leg vert as he was a high jumper so he has jumping technique…these dunkers are incredible athletes IMO…

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 11:24 am #78198

          If you don’t believe those videos, dbandre, there’s about 100 other videos they’ve uploaded of their dunkers. Take a look at their channel. Here’s another video of Golden Child. Clearly, this one is a 10 foot goal:
          [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRPlu0pzQb0[/youtube]

          On a ten foot rim he’s tomahawking and his head is below the rim. none of this other jazz. I don’t doubt they can jump and dunk real well, but people claiming 50″ verts need to understand how vertical jumps are measured first.

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          johnstrang on February 18, 2009 at 11:32 am #78199

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 11:33 am #78200

          [quote author="dbandre" date="1234933709"][quote author="dan1990" date="1234932749"][quote author="dbandre" date="1234927744"]idiots, then buy the crap if you believe these guys are jumping 50″ beyond what they can stand and reach.

          adam linkenauger has 51 inch running vertical..44 inch standing vert…he is 5ft 10 hit is head of a 10ft rim..he used to be a pro high jumper…his vert program is really good…heres a review of it.

          https://www.verticaljumping.com/vert_freak.html%5B/quote%5D

          well his video didn’t give the impression of him having a running vert of 51″.[/quote]

          i asked how he had such a high vert…and he told me a really inspiring story of how he has increased his vert by 30 inches since he was 15.he weighs 173 and squats 425 DEEP thats pretty strong…he probably has such a good running one leg vert as he was a high jumper so he has jumping technique…these dunkers are incredible athletes IMO…[/quote]

          If I had a 51″ vertical, I would showcase it by jumping over shaq. Not over a pedestrian who we can only believe to be average height at 5-8 to 5-10 like the flight brothers. I would also get a camera high enough to show my head goes past perpendicular with a camera at 10″ in height. I take crap I see on the internet these days with a grain of salt after Mike’s funny tricks with ping pong balls video.

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 11:35 am #78201

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          Thank you john

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          johnstrang on February 18, 2009 at 11:44 am #78203

          If that first video posted is legit than they can jump a lot higher than nate, cuz he gets up but his chin isn’t at the rim like those guys. No doubt they have huge vertical leaps though, If i was selling a product i would find lower rims too, or use a trampoline! because I can barely dunk.

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          aivala on February 18, 2009 at 11:45 am #78204

          This is a good dunk from Mike Conley Sr.:

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          Nick Newman on February 18, 2009 at 12:46 pm #78208

          Dbandre you have some really jacked up ideas…

          10 feet = 120 inches…

          6 feet = 72 inches + 6 inches for plantar flexion = 78 inches

          120 inches – 78 inches = 42inches…

          At best without a ball i can get head NEAR rim But not with a ball every single time no. One dude on there how tall ? like 5’9 and his head is not level with the rim, its below the rim a little bit and his vert is much more than 40 inches…

          eye ball level for a 6 foot guy with 40 inch max vert? What are you on?

          so it all adds up.

          Plus those rims are clearly not adjustable rims, they are old ass gyms in high schools some of them. All the more reason to think they are 10 feet. These guys are DUNKING a ball!!!!!!! no one has a MAX VERT while dunking a ball. The WR for dunking was done off an alley pass! why do you think this is dbandre? ? ? ?

          Do you honestly expect them to jump showing their 50 inch vert while dunking a ball?

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 12:58 pm #78209

          Nick I thought you might be 3-4 inches taller than I am. I gave numbers that would put me close to the rim at 40 inches, but 50 inches would require me to put my chin at rim level. Seriously, I don’t doubt these guys can jump reasonably high but 50 inches come on and people have put Nate R around 45-46 inches vertical and he can’t get over 6-11 w/o putting a hand on the back and the one guy can barely clear a pedestrian which puts him at that 36″ vertical level.

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          Nick Newman on February 18, 2009 at 1:08 pm #78210

          Numbers from the NBA combine said that Nates max vert was 42 inches…and standing vert was 36 inches…

          these sound right no?

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          dan1990 on February 18, 2009 at 1:25 pm #78211

          adam linkenauger has a 51 inch vert…he is 5ft 10..he hit his head of a ten ft rim….if he can do that his head goes an inch above ten ft…51 ich vert…he is the only guy iv seen with a proven 50+ vert..
          video of him 2:30 he hits his head of the rim

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xklUw67Khc

          squatdr aroung 50 inch also …60m dash 6.66 FAT…he weighs 210 at 5ft9 full squat 620..paralell squat 720…powerclean close to 2xBW

          PHENOMENAL ATHLETES

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 1:27 pm #78212

          Those numbers for Nate sound about right and are in accordance with how he jumped with his attempt over Amare. I also remember claims of spud jumping 48″ and even he couldn’t do the crazy ass stuff the guy in the first video was doing. I can find plenty of 9′-9’8″ rims wherever I go so I don’t know about them all being regulation.

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 1:28 pm #78213

          adam linkenauger has a 51 inch vert…he is 5ft 10..he hit his head of a ten ft rim….if he can do that his head goes an inch above ten ft…51 ich vert…he is the only guy iv seen with a proven 50+ vert..
          video of him 2:30 he hits his head of the rim

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xklUw67Khc

          squatdr aroung 50 inch also …60m dash 6.66 FAT…he weighs 210 at 5ft9 full squat 620..paralell squat 720…powerclean close to 2xBW

          PHENOMENAL ATHLETES

          it’s not a 50 inch vertical you have to account for plantarflexion at the ankle while still in contact with the ground.

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          mortac8 on February 18, 2009 at 1:57 pm #78214

          it’s not a 50 inch vertical you have to account for plantarflexion at the ankle while still in contact with the ground.

          You do realize that you’re probably the only person on earth who factors plantarflexion into vertical jump measurement?

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          davan on February 18, 2009 at 3:06 pm #78217

          adam linkenauger has a 51 inch vert…he is 5ft 10..he hit his head of a ten ft rim….if he can do that his head goes an inch above ten ft…51 ich vert…he is the only guy iv seen with a proven 50+ vert..
          video of him 2:30 he hits his head of the rim

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xklUw67Khc

          squatdr aroung 50 inch also …60m dash 6.66 FAT…he weighs 210 at 5ft9 full squat 620..paralell squat 720…powerclean close to 2xBW

          PHENOMENAL ATHLETES

          That guy doesn’t run 6.6…. or 6.7…. or 6.8. He is a very nice poster on various forums, helps out people and I don’t think he has ever been rude to anybody, but he has never ran close to those times in meets.

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          Daniel Andrews on February 18, 2009 at 3:18 pm #78218

          [quote author="dbandre" date="1234943959"]
          it’s not a 50 inch vertical you have to account for plantarflexion at the ankle while still in contact with the ground.

          You do realize that you’re probably the only person on earth who factors plantarflexion into vertical jump measurement?[/quote]

          really? cause that’s the standard way to measure in any literature such as the stand and reach (sargent) jump test.

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          Mike Young on February 18, 2009 at 5:09 pm #78222

          Wow. Never thought this thread would get so popular or so heated.

          3 quick thoughts:

          1). I doubt that many people have 51 inch verticals but those guys are definitely in the upper 40s.

          2). I’ve never seen vertical jump measured with plantar flexion in applied settings / field tests. That includes NFL and collegiate combines, USA Bobsled / Skeleton tests, and weight room test protocols of 5 different collegiate strength coaches.

          3) From a true test of vertical JUMP you would have to factor in plantar flexion and also do the arm reach to the same extent as one would use in the actual test. The latter is a common ‘cheat’ that people use on tests where the tester is lax.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          Carl Valle on February 18, 2009 at 5:19 pm #78223

          Low Rim….I will post video of myself dunking like Shawn Kemp later this week. Oldest trick in the book.

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          Mike Young on February 18, 2009 at 5:27 pm #78224

          adam linkenauger has a 51 inch vert…he is 5ft 10..he hit his head of a ten ft rim….if he can do that his head goes an inch above ten ft…51 ich vert…he is the only guy iv seen with a proven 50+ vert..
          video of him 2:30 he hits his head of the rim

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xklUw67Khc

          squatdr aroung 50 inch also …60m dash 6.66 FAT…he weighs 210 at 5ft9 full squat 620..paralell squat 720…powerclean close to 2xBW

          PHENOMENAL ATHLETES

          I just watched the video. I’d say he’s pretty good jumper but I didn’t really see anything that shocked me. Where has his vertical been proven at 50+ inches. To me he looks more like the high 30-low 40 inch vertical jumps guys I’ve worked with. Also, I HIGHLY doubt he’s ever run 6.66, squatted 720 or power cleaned anywhere near 400 lbs. These are ridiculous numbers and I’m not aware of any athlete in the world that can boast claim to do that.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          Mike Young on February 18, 2009 at 5:29 pm #78225

          I forgot to ask where did you get those numbers (60m, squat, etc) from? They are so insane that I’m guessing you didn’t just make them up.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          davan on February 18, 2009 at 5:52 pm #78230

          His PR from meets is like 7.2mid with a bunch of 7.3-7.5 times. I think he claims to have run 6.5-6.6 “in practice, with FAT” or some other nonsense.

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          Mike Young on February 18, 2009 at 5:56 pm #78231

          To put his 6.66 time in perspective. That would likely place him higher at indoor USATFs than his HJ personal best (the event that he competed in collegiately) ever would.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          Avi S (tkxii) on February 18, 2009 at 6:30 pm #78234

          um, tdub clearly has his head 3 inches below the rim. that’s 49 inch vertical. and like nick said, they’re not all adjustable. the jumping over one maybe not 10 foot, but most of them were 10.’ 4 feet is 48 inches, so if you’re 6 feet tall, jump 47 inches (subtract an inch for the shoes) ur head touches the rim, period.

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          dan1990 on February 18, 2009 at 10:48 pm #78237

          [quote author="dan1990" date="1234943750"]adam linkenauger has a 51 inch vert…he is 5ft 10..he hit his head of a ten ft rim….if he can do that his head goes an inch above ten ft…51 ich vert…he is the only guy iv seen with a proven 50+ vert..
          video of him 2:30 he hits his head of the rim

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xklUw67Khc

          squatdr aroung 50 inch also …60m dash 6.66 FAT…he weighs 210 at 5ft9 full squat 620..paralell squat 720…powerclean close to 2xBW

          PHENOMENAL ATHLETES

          I just watched the video. I’d say he’s pretty good jumper but I didn’t really see anything that shocked me. Where has his vertical been proven at 50+ inches. To me he looks more like the high 30-low 40 inch vertical jumps guys I’ve worked with. Also, I HIGHLY doubt he’s ever run 6.66, squatted 720 or power cleaned anywhere
          near 400 lbs. These are ridiculous numbers and I’m not aware of any athlete in the world that can boast claim to do that.[/quote]

          Mike i know it hard to believe…his stats are real…I HIGHLY doudted these aswell ….i have heard rumours that he is going to be the guinness book of world records for highest vertical jump now thats just a rumour it could be complete fake…regarding the 6.66 yes that is real …he does not compete as a sprinter he just really likes sprinting and wanted to prove that he can be fast…yeah he used to run 7.2-7.5 not now

          here is his tnation profile…..

          https://www.t-nation.com/myTNation.do?id=158859

          an interview with squatdr…..

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fj9J0rkQ2Q&feature=channel_page

          40 yard dash squatdr

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovkasfQwxo&feature=channel

          the guy is no fake…i think he has the highest standing vertical in the world..

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          dan1990 on February 18, 2009 at 11:02 pm #78238

          message by squatdr on the vertical summitt..i didnt make this up……..

          so i started off by sprinting for the first time as a junior in college at age 20. i didnt sprint in highschool and hadnt flat our ran fast in a long time outside of playing bsaketball. i trained for size and vertical jump, but not speed. so when i started sprinting, quite frankly i sucked. it bothered me so much to the point that i was determined to be fast. at that time i was a 7.5 60 meter guy and i thought 7.2 was fast. so i busted my ass and ran 7.2 the next year. then i thought 7.0 flat was fast, came back and was overtrained and ran 7.3. so at this point people are telling me that i am slow, and that you are either fast or not. that pissed me off. trained on my own for a two years outdoors in snow and never was healthy, but managed to run small pr’s. then i ran a 7 flat with the flu. then i started running much faster. why? well i think i always had it in me, i just never showed it. the paralysis by analysis is my best explaination. that and my technique was worse than any human being i had ever seen. threw countless hours of trying to fix it (it still needs work) it improved, but i was still thinking too much. so finally, after advice from a good friend who told me to shut the brain off, i started running fast. then confidence starts going, then you start seeing the results of all those ice baths, contrast showers, stretching, foam rolling, training on the snowy track by myself etc kicking in, which reinforces you to do that more. i recently trained with a 10.22 sprinter, who used to beat me by over a second and to 60 meters i beat him, every time. my mind set is “shut the f*ck up and run” and it works, as long as technique is reasonably good. my personal best timed with a speed trap on an outdoor 60 meters is 6.59 with the 10.22 guy as my competition and that was with SLOOOOOOOW reaction time factored in but also some tailwind as well. i just had a groin tweak but i have been extra careful and i am excited to get back to see where i am at. personal bests speed traped time are 1.68 to 10 3.76 to 30 6.62 to 60 with reation time (the first two are with no reaction time).
          so all in all, i did something, struggled, pushed threw it, was told i couldnt do it, did it anyway while training by myself outside in the snow, and got WAY faster, and with all that said, i got more in the tank! train hard.

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          mortac8 on February 18, 2009 at 11:42 pm #78239

          If his 6.66 60m was real, he would be on something called the IAAF Top List. “Laser timing” doesn’t count btw.

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 12:11 am #78240

          yaeh you have a point….he was beating a 100m 10.22 guy by quite a large margin…he must be pretty fast especially for a white guy….

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 3:46 am #78249

          PLEASE don’t tell me you believe those claims. 6.59 would make him one of the top 8 fastest 60m sprinters in the world. IN THE WORLD. The only way that could be possible is if it’s done with some kind of run-in (but he says it’s not). If he were that fast he’d be making a heck of a lot more money sprinting in Europe. Heck, the guy should be a decathlete because according to his numbers he should be able to sprint 10.2, high jump about 8’1″ and long jump around 28 feet (assuming the previous two marks are correct).

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 3:48 am #78250

          yaeh you have a point….he was beating a 100m 10.22 guy by quite a large margin…he must be pretty fast especially for a white guy….

          Are you basing this off of what he’s posting on a messageboard? Where’s the video, where’s the meet results in a sanctioned event?

          I think you’ve been bamboozled if you believe all that nonsense.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 3:57 am #78251

          [quote author="Mike Young" date="1234958254"][quote author="dan1990" date="1234943750"]adam linkenauger has a 51 inch vert…he is 5ft 10..he hit his head of a ten ft rim….if he can do that his head goes an inch above ten ft…51 ich vert…he is the only guy iv seen with a proven 50+ vert..
          video of him 2:30 he hits his head of the rim

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xklUw67Khc

          squatdr aroung 50 inch also …60m dash 6.66 FAT…he weighs 210 at 5ft9 full squat 620..paralell squat 720…powerclean close to 2xBW

          PHENOMENAL ATHLETES

          I just watched the video. I’d say he’s pretty good jumper but I didn’t really see anything that shocked me. Where has his vertical been proven at 50+ inches. To me he looks more like the high 30-low 40 inch vertical jumps guys I’ve worked with. Also, I HIGHLY doubt he’s ever run 6.66, squatted 720 or power cleaned anywhere
          near 400 lbs. These are ridiculous numbers and I’m not aware of any athlete in the world that can boast claim to do that.[/quote]

          Mike i know it hard to believe…his stats are real…I HIGHLY doudted these aswell ….i have heard rumours that he is going to be the guinness book of world records for highest vertical jump now thats just a rumour it could be complete fake…regarding the 6.66 yes that is real …he does not compete as a sprinter he just really likes sprinting and wanted to prove that he can be fast…yeah he used to run 7.2-7.5 not now

          here is his tnation profile…..

          https://www.t-nation.com/myTNation.do?id=158859

          an interview with squatdr…..

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fj9J0rkQ2Q&feature=channel_page

          40 yard dash squatdr

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovkasfQwxo&feature=channel

          the guy is no fake…i think he has the highest standing vertical in the world..[/quote]

          mike have a look at these videos…u gotta admit he is a pretty good athlete…i probably got a bit carried away..i actually do believe him ..i know your going to think im stupid…btw he said he was beating the guy up to 60m over 100m he was losing to 10.22 guy…its hard to believe i know…he does have a phenomenal lifting numbers …big squat certainly helps acceleration….which is why he is called squatdr

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 4:01 am #78252

          I did about 3 minutes of research and I don’t think he has anything on this guy, who apparently has the world record in the 40 yard dash. Check out the video, it speaks for itself:

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 4:07 am #78253

          I did about 3 minutes of research and I don’t think he has anything on this guy, who apparently has the world record in the 40 yard dash. Check out the video, it speaks for itself:
          [youtube]WUUOsXglKLI[/youtube]

          wow that was quick ??who is that guy??

          yes i probably got carried away about the sprint times….i can be very stupid at times….he has got a great leap do..
          he used to on these website!!!

          https://elitetrack.com/forums/viewthread/1631/P30/

          he posted his maxes on the site…

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 4:11 am #78254

          mike have a look at these videos…u gotta admit he is a pretty good athlete…i probably got a bit carried away..i actually do believe him ..i know your going to think im stupid…btw he said he was beating the guy up to 60m over 100m he was losing to 10.22 guy…its hard to believe i know…he does have a phenomenal lifting numbers …big squat certainly helps acceleration….which is why he is called squatdr

          I’m not saying he’s not a good athlete. He’s clearly a good athlete. The stats he’s talking about though are insane. I’ve seen guys that are the fastest in the world, world champion jumpers, and Olympic throwers and weightlifters train and NONE of them have numbers that compare to his ‘numbers.’ 740 squat? 6.59 (that’s what it now says in the profile)? 51 inch vertical jump? If that were real he’s a living and breathing super hero.

          Why are there no results in sanctioned competitions (Olympic lifting, powerlifting, or track). He’d be top 3 in the U.S. in three different sports.

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 4:18 am #78255

          i cant ans them questions…maybe it is all B.S….anyway here is another video of him…
          look at the first comment..if its true then maybe we can believe him!!!!!he must have a pretty decent squat if he jumping that high weighing 200 lbs

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86sgfL_-mx8&feature=channel_page

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          lift4speed on February 19, 2009 at 5:08 am #78258

          believe what you want to believe, but this guy your speaking of is for real. I actually had him as a personal trainer for some sessions.

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 5:20 am #78259

          There’s a big difference between great athlete and world class athlete in 3 different sports (sprinting, powerlifint, and olympic lifting). If someone has contact with him tell him to come back over here. I’ll be more than fair in giving him an opportunity to prove himself. Heck I’d love to interview the guy and put it on the site.

          Kebba, Carl, CFKA, JJ or anyone else who’s trained or watched world class athletes train before (world class = proven in a sanctioned event)…have you seen any athletes put up numbers like that in those 5 field tests (clean, squat, VJ, 30m, 60m). Also, while the video is impressive, I don’t think it indicates he’s capable of 51″ vertical, 6.59 for 60m, 740 lb back squat and 380 lb clean.

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 5:30 am #78260

          If you do a search for 100m times you’ll see that he has several performances listed between 11.38 and 11.7.

          Excellent jumper? yes.

          World class sprinter? Not even for a female.

          Why no videos of a 740 lb squat or 380 lb power clean?

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          mortac8 on February 19, 2009 at 6:21 am #78262

          this is all very amusing. i love when people tell me how fast they are. it usually takes about 1 meet where they finish 50th out of 60 competitors for them to realize it…or pull a “yo i got a bad start dawg, i could have won”

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          Carl Valle on February 19, 2009 at 6:40 am #78265

          Where does he live? Let’s drive and test him on a vertec

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 7:00 am #78269

          He apparently lives in SD…along with 3 other people. Sorry….had to throw that dig in for my friends in the State.

          I actually am far more inclined to believe his VJ than his 30m time, 60m time, squat or clean numbers.

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          lift4speed on February 19, 2009 at 7:02 am #78270

          mike for your information i have seen him put up those squat numbers, havent seen his other lifts but have seen his squat and its for real. He is from SD like you say but he surely is for real. And those times you looked up were from like college and since then he’s really dedicated himself to his training. I know there was a write up in one of our local newspapers and a video as well. I will look it up to see if i cna find it.

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 7:05 am #78271

          He apparently lives in SD…along with 3 other people. Sorry….had to throw that dig in for my friends in the State.

          I actually am far more inclined to believe his VJ than his 30m time, 60m time, squat or clean numbers.

          how did you get that information??..he has a wife and 2 kids….we really need the man “squatdr” himself to clear this up……what year were the 100m times from??

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          lift4speed on February 19, 2009 at 7:06 am #78272

          100m times i believe are from college.

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          lift4speed on February 19, 2009 at 7:08 am #78273

          apparently i have to buy the article, which i am not going to do.

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 7:10 am #78274

          Thanks. In terms of believability I would say:
          VJ > squat > clean > 30m > 60m. You can look back and see that I actually haven’t been nearly as skeptical of the VJ.

          There’s no way in hell he ran 6.59 unless it was 60 yards, he had a fly-in, the timing gates were whacked or he had a hurricane at his back. He says the time includes reaction time.

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          lift4speed on February 19, 2009 at 7:12 am #78275

          The 60m dash i cant clarify if he ran that, I dont know for sure. But i do know that his squat numbers, vertical jump numbers are legit

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 7:28 am #78276

          I just emailed Alan and invited him to check in with this thread and comment on it. I also offered the opportunity to do an interview and let him talk about his training.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          K Rackley on February 19, 2009 at 7:57 am #78279

          There’s no way in hell he ran 6.59 unless it was 60 yards, he had a fly-in, the timing gates were whacked or he had a hurricane at his back.

          LOL

          I just emailed Alan and invited him to check in with this thread and comment on it. I also offered the opportunity to do an interview and let him talk about his training.

          I can’t wait for that interview and the 700+ squat. Yeah, I find the 60m dash a little more than unreal.

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          richard-703 on February 19, 2009 at 8:19 am #78282

          I would like to see a video or meet results of those lifts.

          I found various numbers on the web for him such as: 600+ full SQ and 700+ “parallel”.

          It depends what you call full and parallel etc.

          I’ll just say that when my squat was 700+ I looked a lot different and probably couldn’t break 9 secs for 60m…

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          Chad Williams on February 19, 2009 at 8:24 am #78283

          I had to check this guy out after all the internet hype.

          Seems like he follows a modified WBB program. He includes more bounding, sprinting and olympic lifting than your standard Louie Simmons disciple.

          I also could believe the VJ and squat, maybe even the clean. The running times, not so much. Who ever posted that he was keeping pace with a 10.22 guy, I could see him doing 20m starts next to him and looking like he might be as fast. He would most likely blow his gasket at 30m and the rest of the race (60m on up) would be the rapid deceleration dance of doom.

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 9:03 am #78286

          He actually said he ran sprints against the 10.22 runner and was beating him in every distance we ran under 100 meters and by quite a large margin.

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 9:30 am #78288

          I had to check this guy out after all the internet hype.

          Seems like he follows a modified WBB program. He includes more bounding, sprinting and olympic lifting than your standard Louie Simmons disciple.

          I also could believe the VJ and squat, maybe even the clean. The running times, not so much. Who ever posted that he was keeping pace with a 10.22 guy, I could see him doing 20m starts next to him and looking like he might be as fast. He would most likely blow his gasket at 30m and the rest of the race (60m on up) would be the rapid deceleration dance of doom.

          i dont know how you came up with this…i think he has been concentrating on sprinting the last few years …we have never seen the guy run ..im just stating what he wrote in his blog….we need squatdr to clear this up…i think your comparing him to olympic weightlifter…he does not compete as a weightlifter or a sprinter as far as i know

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          Chad Williams on February 19, 2009 at 9:30 am #78289

          Ok, so after reading his posts, I need to see some vids.

          Here are my requests:

          Video of 12lb medball dunk

          Video of 650+ squat

          Video of 350lb clean

          Video of 60m sprint

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 9:32 am #78290

          [quote author="Mike Young" date="1234958254"][quote author="dan1990" date="1234943750"]adam linkenauger has a 51 inch vert…he is 5ft 10..he hit his head of a ten ft rim….if he can do that his head goes an inch above ten ft…51 ich vert…he is the only guy iv seen with a proven 50+ vert..
          video of him 2:30 he hits his head of the rim

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xklUw67Khc

          squatdr aroung 50 inch also …60m dash 6.66 FAT…he weighs 210 at 5ft9 full squat 620..paralell squat 720…powerclean close to 2xBW

          PHENOMENAL ATHLETES

          I just watched the video. I’d say he’s pretty good jumper but I didn’t really see anything that shocked me. Where has his vertical been proven at 50+ inches. To me he looks more like the high 30-low 40 inch vertical jumps guys I’ve worked with. Also, I HIGHLY doubt he’s ever run 6.66, squatted 720 or power cleaned anywhere
          near 400 lbs. These are ridiculous numbers and I’m not aware of any athlete in the world that can boast claim to do that.[/quote]

          Mike i know it hard to believe…his stats are real…I HIGHLY doudted these aswell ….i have heard rumours that he is going to be the guinness book of world records for highest vertical jump now thats just a rumour it could be complete fake…regarding the 6.66 yes that is real …he does not compete as a sprinter he just really likes sprinting and wanted to prove that he can be fast…yeah he used to run 7.2-7.5 not now

          here is his tnation profile…..

          https://www.t-nation.com/myTNation.do?id=158859

          an interview with squatdr…..

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fj9J0rkQ2Q&feature=channel_page

          40 yard dash squatdr

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovkasfQwxo&feature=channel

          the guy is no fake…i think he has the highest standing vertical in the world..[/quote]

          here are some vids of him….

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          davan on February 19, 2009 at 10:43 am #78292

          lol is that 40yd dash video supposed to legitimize any of the claims? Because it certainly goes far in proving the opposite?

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          Nick Newman on February 19, 2009 at 12:18 pm #78299

          Can we talk about who the best dunkers ever are? Always good convo…
          Ill start…

          Person that can do the best dunk ever is James White

          Best overall dunker i give to Vince Carter. He has the best conbo of 1 and 2 foot dunks…

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 12:38 pm #78304

          kadour ziani……

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          Nick Newman on February 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm #78305

          He is not even close to being the best dunker ever…no chance…

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 12:50 pm #78306

          He is not even close to being the best dunker ever…no chance…

          what….ziani is the man..hes def one of the best….maybe not the best….whos your favourite dunker..whats is your running vert?..did you used to play bball…

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          Carl Valle on February 19, 2009 at 12:52 pm #78307

          I am flying to South Dakota in 23 days. I will test Squat Dr.

          CV

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          Nick Newman on February 19, 2009 at 12:53 pm #78308

          Yeah i played a lot when i was younger…16-20…

          James white and Vince Carter..

          Its up around 40-42 inches from a run. I’ve done windmills, 360’s, reverses etc etc before. I mostly played off my athletism. However i could NEVER do between the legs even on an 8 foot rim! that dunk is amazing…

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 12:57 pm #78309

          I am flying to South Dakota in 23 days. I will test Squat Dr.

          CV

          did you contact him??

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 1:04 pm #78310

          Yeah i played a lot when i was younger…16-20…

          James white and Vince Carter..

          Its up around 40-42 inches from a run. I’ve done windmills, 360’s, reverses etc etc before. I mostly played off my athletism. However i could NEVER do between the legs even on an 8 foot rim! that dunk is amazing…

          your vert of one or two leg??your probably naturally athletic..always had a high vert..your from england you play football/soccer when you were younger

          720 dunk

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt001pBcwjM

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          Nick Newman on February 19, 2009 at 1:28 pm #78312

          2 foot…ive never tested my 1 foot very…

          that 720 is good for sure…

          but james whites between the legs from behind the free throw line is the greatest dunk ever.

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          Daniel Andrews on February 19, 2009 at 1:41 pm #78315

          Low Rim….I will post video of myself dunking like Shawn Kemp later this week. Oldest trick in the book.

          Amen

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          Nick Newman on February 19, 2009 at 1:45 pm #78317

          Hater! As usual!

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          Mike Young on February 19, 2009 at 5:25 pm #78327

          AC just got back to me. He was very gracious and said he’ll answer some questions and I’ll put it on the mainpage as a blog. I have a couple questions already but are there any in particular you’d like to see asked?

          On a related note, he said that he didn’t train for sprinting until a couple years ago and admits to being slow before that. Because of training situations in SD he uses the speed trap to time himself in the summer and doesn’t post the times to brag but only because other people ask him about them. He also mentioned that he does not consider the times official and likewise doesn’t feel the need to defend any of his performances.

          So what questions do you guys want to see answered? Please keep it civil as he’s being gracious enough to participate.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          dan1990 on February 19, 2009 at 11:57 pm #78339

          here a few questions……

          how would a typical training week look like??

          what are your plans for the future??

          how as his physical attributes developed over the years??

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          Mike Young on February 20, 2009 at 7:47 am #78360

          AC just sent me what looks to be a VERY thorough and lengthy email. He wanted to just go ahead and get it out of the way. I haven’t read through the entire thing yet but I think it will answer most of our questionsI’ll post to the blog shortly.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          Mike Young on February 20, 2009 at 7:19 pm #78407

          Read AC’s response here.[/url]

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          AdamLinkenauger on April 30, 2009 at 5:08 am #82608

          Hey, i just wanted to come on here in case anyone has any questions for me as well! Love the forum, very nice discussions.

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          star61 on April 30, 2009 at 5:34 am #82610

          Hey, i just wanted to come on here in case anyone has any questions for me as well! Love the forum, very nice discussions.

          Adam, could you outline your suggested training plan (including weights, sprints, plyos) for a younger athlete wanting to jump higher/sprint faster?

          Thanks…

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          AdamLinkenauger on May 12, 2009 at 7:51 pm #83256

          I am a big fan of periodized training when it comes to track and field, and sport training in general. I like this patterned training because of your ability to peak your performance when you choose. My program i created is my exam workout routine, and consists of all you mentioned, with the addition of core work.

          My workout typically begins as so

          Dynamic Warmup (20-30mins)
          Workout 30mins (Spring/plyo workout, or mix)
          Weights (Usually 30 mins)

          Then before bed at night, a 20 minute ab routine, then some foam rolling/and or ice

          As for my periodized scheme, I typically aim for 12-15 week cycles

          Phase 1 Strength/Conditioning ( like a 5×5 weight plan for a simplified example, my workouts consist of strength plyos, and conditioned sprints (150-400m hill work, 3x5mins tempo run)
          5 weeks

          Phase 2 Explosive Work (lighter weight, explosive reps in weight room, plyos become more of the focus, sprints shorten, and intensity rises, recovery increases
          5-7 Weeks

          Phase 3 Technique and Taper, I like to use this week to actually concentrate on the technicalities of running and jumping, while I naturally taper up, weight room becomes really light and explosive, sprints become extremely intense, short, and full recovery between, (Ex 6×30 meters with full recovery between reps)
          2-3 weeks

          My style is different than most, but I am very confident with it, and my results thus far. It is great for plateaued or bored athletes as well, sorry for the delay in answering, ive been traveling a bit!

          adam

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          cdnsprinter on January 2, 2010 at 4:03 am #93057

          For those interested to know,one of the guys in Team Flight Brothers from the video posted by the original thread starter is called Justin Darlington.

          This guy is originaly from Toronto and he’s been recruited by a well known track coach.

          Since then he’s been training in Montreal as a high jumper and all I can say is what you see in the vids is all REAL. I’ve seen him high jump and I’ve seen him dunk in person too and he is that impressive. Keep this name in mind, you’ll hear from him on the track scene eventualy, that’s all I can say.

          Happy new year to every one here!and lots of PB’s

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          Miele-Scott on January 2, 2010 at 7:30 am #93064

          My style is different than most, but I am very confident with it, and my results thus far. It is great for plateaued or bored athletes as well, sorry for the delay in answering, ive been traveling a bit!

          adam

          i thought this set up was normal?

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          jamesbrrando@gmail.com on April 26, 2010 at 5:09 am #97737

          THose clowns can jump, but I can do the same crap and im around the 38-40inch legit vertical range. NO steps or running horsecrap
          plus im 5-11
          i can touch the top of the square on a 10 foot rim.

          None of those guys has a 50 inch standing vertical
          if anything 46-50 running at the most.

          I have many yrs of bball experience also.

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