lets say i eat steak (or various types of dead cow) 3 times a week for dinner. is it too much? what are guidelines on red meat? i cant stand not eating steak. plus i feel different with it not in my diet. and not in a good way. ill probably be eating 3500-4000 calories a day, if that helps at all.
eating steak 3 times a week?
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As long as your protein intake is not above 30% of total calories, and you are getting at least 55% of total calories from carbohydrate. That is max protein and min carbohydrate %. Something along the lines of 60-65% carbohydrate and 20-25% protein is sufficient for an athlete.
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you sayin it doesnt matter which meat i eat as long as i have proper protein intake?
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Your body won't process excess protein, it may store it by converting it to a storable fuel. However, steaks (beef) are probably the best natural source of protein, besides eggs. They contain a lot of fat though and that add calories, so it is nice to balance those calories from a steak (1100-2000 kcal) for some of them. When you eat steak you are eating muscle, specifically red (slow twitch) muscle and that also gives you iron, creatine (naturally source), and some of the vitamins needed for muscular function.
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well my question is it wrong to eat a lot of steak? i keep reading that you should eat red meats sparingly. sounds like youre saying to eat as much as you want.
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I am no dietician, and I am biased towards steak, but I prefer my steaks almost raw and I eat steak about 6-8 a month. At 32 it has not affected me negatively, but what the future holds I don't know.
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I wouldn't worry about it… Eat until you feel full. If you train, then you need fuel. I eat one ton of food each day and it still isn't enough (I would guess 8,000-9,000 calories). Of course I am in college, have to walk across campus, and have two training sessions a day most days.
But in my opinion, eating should be something that regenerates you, relaxes you, and you really enjoy. Obviously eating healthy is key, but compared to other things, it shouldn't be something you worry about.
IMO, this falls into the category of "How should I breathe when I run?"
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KeymasterWhile I agree with most of what has been stated above, steak is generally higher in fat than other alternatives (poultry, pork, and seafood) and the cooking process typically generates plenty of carcinogens that are not good for health.
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my nutrition teacher said the cooking of the steak only forms carcinogens at very thourough levels. i dont think fat is a good enough reason not to eat. so far im getting the feeling that 'no red meat!' is pretty bull. :spin:
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My steak never cooks long enough to get carcinogens! I like mine raw to medium raw!!!
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I've always said, 'knock the horns off of the bull, wipe its butt, and bring it to the table.'
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I'm no nutritionist but I don't think thoroughness has much to do with the amount of carcinogens in the beef. I could very well be wrong but I was under the impression that it was the char marks and sizzled fat that is high in carcinogens. Both of which are present in a properly grilled raw and medium raw steak.
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that was the information i was given too. i dont grill my steak though.
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My steak again rarely has char marks. sizzled fat yes, that may trap some nitrates, but I often like it cooked at around 250-300 without charring the dang thing.
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While that is valid information….If you try to avoid carcinogens you won't have a life. There is a difference between a steak that has grill marks and char marks. Grill marks is just a darkening of the meat while char is burnt. You can usually scrape scrape off the charring. I haven't read much about carcinogens in the fat.
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While that is valid information….If you try to avoid carcinogens you won't have a life. There is a difference between a steak that has grill marks and char marks. Grill marks is just a darkening of the meat while char is burnt. You can usually scrape scrape off the charring. I haven't read much about carcinogens in the fat.
Don't get me wrong….I eat red meat 2-4x a week but I just wanted to make the facts clear….chicken is not steak when it comes to taste, steak is not chicken when it comes to a protein source when weighing nutritional pros and cons.
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but chicken doesnt have the same creatine levels either does it?
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but chicken doesnt have the same creatine levels either does it?
Nope…..but the higher levels of creatine in steak isn't really a legitimate argument for eating it over chicken as it would take enormous amounts of steak to get any type of performance boosting effect from creatine. Taste is probably the best argument for steak in my opinion.
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alright, good to know.
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Iron is probably best nutritional argument for steak, unless you like eating chicken legs. Red meat = Blood supply = Iron, also proteins help reduce gut size.
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I wanted to add that steak is high in trans fats which raise bad cholesterol levels and decrease good cholesterol levels….a double whammy of sorts.
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Mike:
stop trying to ruin my appetite. :p
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