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    Ed Byrd’s perfect creatine? Muscle milk NCAA compliant?

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          cliffordwinburn on December 20, 2006 at 9:33 am #12548

          Anyone on CE2?  The creator claims it is the perfect creatine and is the only FDA approved creatine!  Sounds pretty sweet wtih no edema build up… 

          How about that muscle milk?  Compliant to all the big schools, like UCLA, Arizona, USC, Florida State, etc.  I think this places an advantage in their already successful track programs.  What yall think?

        • Participant
          utfootball4 on December 20, 2006 at 9:36 am #60983

          Anyone on CE2?  The creator claims it is the perfect creatine and is the only FDA approved creatine!  Sounds pretty sweet wtih no edema build up… 

          How about that muscle milk?  Compliant to all the big schools, like UCLA, Arizona, USC, Florida State, etc.  I think this places an advantage in their already successful track programs.  What yall think?

          advantage how?

        • Participant
          cliffordwinburn on December 20, 2006 at 9:47 am #60984

          The advantage is it is free.  Also the protiens and fats and carbohydrates in it work really well, I have bought this stuff once to see why big schools are using it, and recovery is a lot better than coming home and eating barbeque chicken  and then some oatmeal with banana in it.  In my experience it helped me recover from my workouts overnight… big difference for me.  So that's why I think its an advantage because of the great recovery.

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          mortac8 on December 20, 2006 at 10:54 am #60985

          Anyone on CE2?  The creator claims it is the perfect creatine and is the only FDA approved creatine!  Sounds pretty sweet wtih no edema build up… 

          How about that muscle milk?  Compliant to all the big schools, like UCLA, Arizona, USC, Florida State, etc.  I think this places an advantage in their already successful track programs.  What yall think?

          Lies, damn lies, and marketing.  CE2 the perfect creatine?  The only FDA approved creatine….pllleaze  :puzzled:.
          https://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1231523

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          cliffordwinburn on December 21, 2006 at 1:03 am #60986

          [quote author="agentwinburn8604" date="1166587455"]
          Anyone on CE2?  The creator claims it is the perfect creatine and is the only FDA approved creatine!  Sounds pretty sweet wtih no edema build up… 

          How about that muscle milk?  Compliant to all the big schools, like UCLA, Arizona, USC, Florida State, etc.  I think this places an advantage in their already successful track programs.  What yall think?

          Lies, damn lies, and marketing.  CE2 the perfect creatine?  The only FDA approved creatine….pllleaze  :puzzled:.
          https://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1231523

          [/quote]

          Nice… article from t-nation.  If all that stuff is true about muscle milk being harmful, then why do universities use it?  Especially the big ones I mentioned earlier that a have a good name?  Either that article you posted is faulty or those universities are naive.  (which I don't think that they are naive!).

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          mortac8 on December 21, 2006 at 1:22 am #60987

          [quote author="mortac8" date="1166592281"]
          [quote author="agentwinburn8604" date="1166587455"]
          Anyone on CE2?  The creator claims it is the perfect creatine and is the only FDA approved creatine!  Sounds pretty sweet wtih no edema build up… 

          How about that muscle milk?  Compliant to all the big schools, like UCLA, Arizona, USC, Florida State, etc.  I think this places an advantage in their already successful track programs.  What yall think?

          Lies, damn lies, and marketing.  CE2 the perfect creatine?  The only FDA approved creatine….pllleaze  :puzzled:.
          https://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1231523

          [/quote]

          Nice… article from t-nation.  If all that stuff is true about muscle milk being harmful, then why do universities use it?  Especially the big ones I mentioned earlier that a have a good name?  Either that article you posted is faulty or those universities are naive.  (which I don't think that they are naive!).
          [/quote]

          I hear ya.  There's so much info out there it's hard to know what to believe.  I'm was just being devil's advocate with the MuscleMilk thing however I do think the CE2 claims are BS.  Regular creatine, anyone?  I guess regular creatine isn't glamorous enough.

        • Member
          Carson Boddicker on December 21, 2006 at 1:28 am #60988

          I believe that there are new regulations on with what exactly a school can supply its athletes, and MuscleMilk (due to its protein content) is prohibited.  Am I correct or have I been led astray. 

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          mortac8 on December 21, 2006 at 1:33 am #60989

          I believe that there are new regulations on with what exactly a school can supply its athletes, and MuscleMilk (due to its protein content) is prohibited.  Am I correct or have I been led astray.  

          https://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/health-safety/drug_ed_progs/nutritional_supplements
          Permissible if: …"It does not contain more than 30 percent of calories from protein (based solely on the package label)"

          I have heard the same thing but I know at least one school who sells protein powder to its athletes.

          Edit:  Muscle Milk has 37% of cals from protein.

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          thenextbestthing on December 21, 2006 at 2:35 am #60990

          I believe that there are new regulations on with what exactly a school can supply its athletes, and MuscleMilk (due to its protein content) is prohibited.  Am I correct or have I been led astray. 

          i am sorry to say that you have been led astray. my school is currently trying to get sponsored by musclemilk. if we do then all of us athletes will get the liquid bottle musclemilk free. 🙂  that stuff tastes great. i wonder if that article only applies to the powdered variety?

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          thenextbestthing on December 21, 2006 at 2:48 am #60991

          [quote author="agentwinburn8604" date="1166643248"]

          [quote author="mortac8" date="1166592281"]
          [quote author="agentwinburn8604" date="1166587455"]
          Anyone on CE2?  The creator claims it is the perfect creatine and is the only FDA approved creatine!  Sounds pretty sweet wtih no edema build up… 

          How about that muscle milk?  Compliant to all the big schools, like UCLA, Arizona, USC, Florida State, etc.  I think this places an advantage in their already successful track programs.  What yall think?

          Lies, damn lies, and marketing.  CE2 the perfect creatine?  The only FDA approved creatine….pllleaze  :puzzled:.
          https://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1231523

          [/quote]

          Nice… article from t-nation.  If all that stuff is true about muscle milk being harmful, then why do universities use it?  Especially the big ones I mentioned earlier that a have a good name?  Either that article you posted is faulty or those universities are naive.  (which I don't think that they are naive!).
          [/quote]

          I hear ya.  There's so much info out there it's hard to know what to believe.  I'm was just being devil's advocate with the MuscleMilk thing however <b>I do think the CE2 claims are BS. </b>  Regular creatine, anyone?  I guess regular creatine isn't glamorous enough.
          [/quote]

          thats what i thought too. i went to gnc one time and the store salesman really hyped up CE2 and NO2. sounded great but i figured he just wanted to make a sale. but then i talked to a former baseball player at my school and he said that when he took CE2 and NO2 he had tremendous results. all his lifts went up a lot and he always had a pump. he compared it to the feeling like the hulk. he said that instead of struggling by his 6th rep without the supplements he could easils do 7. he wasnt trying to sell anything so i knew he was being honest.  after hearing that you would think that i went out and bought them. nope. that stuff is expensive, and i am doing well with regular creatine monohydrate, protein power, and a good diet. however, if i did have that much money to spend on supplements i probably would get them.

        • Keymaster
          Mike Young on December 21, 2006 at 10:24 am #60992

          There are restrictions on what a program can offer with protein as a percentage of total calories. Off the top of my head I'd say this rule is at least 4 years old. Standard muscle milk does not fit in to these standards. That's why there is now a collegiate series muscle milk. If they didn't reformulate a special line to cater to collegiate strength programs they would be missing out on a fairly sizeable chunk of the supplement industry. EAS and MET-RX were the first to make special 'collegiate' lines.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          QUIKAZHELL on December 21, 2006 at 10:52 am #60993

          That is soooooo retarded. That is just the NCAA for ya.
          Last year I think I remember Defranco talking about althetes getting suspened for "using" Muscle Milk.

        • Keymaster
          Mike Young on December 21, 2006 at 10:59 am #60994

          You can actually use whatever you want as far as protein supplements go, the team just can't supply it. Defranco's example might have been one of a team policy because there isn't anything illegal about muscle milk as far as I know. I recommend it to all of my athletes.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          Dave Hegland on August 29, 2007 at 3:58 am #60995

          Bringing this back up….

          My university is considering moving to the Musclemilk Collegiate product.  I'm trying to research the various "collegiate" options out there.  Any more thoughts/experiences?  A good post-workout drink?

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          mortac8 on August 29, 2007 at 7:16 am #60996

          I suppose Muscle Milk is a good post workout drink.  I don't understand collegiate rules they make absolutely no sense to me.  There's a ton of dumb shizzle that colleges aren't allowed to provide.  Like a product with more than 30% protein, BCAAs, and a few dozen other stupid things… Muscle Milk seems to be good unless you read Dave Barr's insanity Muscle Milk article on T-nation.com that makes you think you will die if you take it.

        • Participant
          meat on September 24, 2007 at 9:19 am #60997

          Muscle Milk taste pretty good for the most part and I wish I could get it for free from school,  just putting it out there for any coach that might read this post. 

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