what do you guys think about the cheat method "keeping the hand on the touch pad as long as possible", I tried it today but it seem to mess with my accel mech? What are some of the things you must do to make it work for the athlete?
electronic timing
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If you're already running 4.3x as you just be based on the 60 time you have given in the past Why would you even need to "cheat"?
Also, wouldn't the scouts be smart enough to look for this "technique"? -
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This is one of those motor learning things. When the athlete learns to accept that trying to keep the hand on the touch pad as long as they can will only slow them down is the best way to do this. Your CF cue works well with this, because keeping your hand on as long as possible does mess with accel mechanics.
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If you're already running 4.3x as you just be based on the 60 time you have given in the past Why would you even need to "cheat"?
Also, wouldn't the scouts be smart enough to look for this "technique"?I'm looking for every advantage i can get, they are making us run on field turf which i hate. thats why i asked the questions i did, bc if you know you are fast and have been training hard/smart why cheat and risk screwing up ur tech.
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ut what you run a 4.3 what
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ut what you run a 4.3 what
last time i got timed a 4.37-4.38.
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damn electric you running,what position you play.
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damn electric you running,what position you play.
i never used electronic timing for my 40yds dash testing, it has always been handtime by scouts/coaches on field turf or grass in fb cleats. i played kr/wr/rb.
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do any of you know how much time is lost when using electronic timing system, i have heard anywhere from .08-.22?
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What kind of electronic timing? touch pad vs handtime or laser finish w/ hand start vs handtime or what?
im talking about electronic start and finish vs handtime that scouts use.
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Prob about .15. (the time from the scout seeing your hand leave the ground until he is able to click the watch). There should be almost no difference between the finish for electronic vs hand.
what do u think about keeping the hand on the touch pad as long as possible?
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[quote author="mortac8" date="1169002598"]
Prob about .15. (the time from the scout seeing your hand leave the ground until he is able to click the watch). There should be almost no difference between the finish for electronic vs hand.what do u think about keeping the hand on the touch pad as long as possible?
[/quote]I would think it would throw off your mechanics but I'm not sure. I wouldn't do it unless you were being tested with a touchpad timing system and you had one to practice on and determined you could run faster that way.
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If its electronic first movement I would still say it is definately going to be a bigger gap than .15.
The only real thing to go off which isnt debateable is that visual stimulus reaction is about .2, so right there it is going to be more than .15.
From there its more speculative, first you have the fact that the time most likely is standing at the finish so he probably isnt going to pick up your first movement exactly when it happens because I mean most reaction tests the individual knows where to look for the stimulus.
On top of that its not really life or death if a timer isnt spot on, I mean they are going to try to be, but its not the same as if a sprinter is trying to get out of the blocks first.
I would given just these conditions .25-.3 would probably be about right, then after that you would have to know if the timer is anticipating the finish, individual differences in reaction time, how long they have been timing, etc.
Also judging from having been electric timed before with commands at penn relays, I think the fastest time was around 4.86 or so cant remember it was a few years back, but you would be surprised at the difference. -
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If you keep your hand on as long as possible you will only put yourself IN A LESS THAN IDEAL POSITION to accelerate from. Kind of like some of those coaches who tell their sprinters to stay low out of the blocks only to have them trying to accelerate with a bend at the waist.
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