In the specific strength and speed thread, Star hit on something I have been thinking about for awhile and talked to about a little bit with some other coaches this year. Here’s the originating quote tree from that thread:
[quote author="[email protected]" date="1339799961"][quote author="star61" date="1339798053"] BUT, I personally feel that many forms of training, whether they are designed to improve strength or to improve power, have value, especially as they become more and more specific. As Charlie Francis use to say, train all points along the FV curve.
Much evidence exists in the literature suggesting that non-specific and marginally specific training (weights, sleds, hills, vests) improve acceleration. [b]And as I said in my last post, tscm’s posts make me wonder that the focus shouldn’t be on reaching Max V, it should be on NOT reaching Max V, i.e., accelerating faster and longer.[/b]
I think this may be the post of the year, actually.[/quote]
Also riding this, and highlighting because this is something I’ve been wondering and thinking about for awhile now too. It’s also a reason why I’ve taken flies out of my workouts this spring and ended up seeing really good results. Just because everyone loves a dumb car analogy, driving at top speed doesn’t teach you how to get through the gears.
My thoughts aren’t fully formed yet on this topic but its definitely one I’d like to discuss more.[/quote]
Disclaimer- this is all just thoughts and ideas right now. There may end up being circular logic, obvious things being stated to some that aren’t obvious to others, and other oddities. It’s conversations like this that are best had over a beer as pretenses and adherences to different schools of training tend to drop for the sake of the conversation and I hope this thread ends up being as such.
My initial thoughts:
Maximal velocity is by definition the very point in which acceleration stops. What is stopping the acceleration? A multitude of possibilities exist for this answer. Is it a form, efficiency or coordination problem? Is it a power to weight issue? Is it an energy system/substrate issue? Obviously, it’s probably going to be a collusion of those plus other variables (wind, rain, etc).
Mike has said in multiple presentations that today’s athletes are accelerating faster and further into the race than athletes in the past. ( Slide 47 – https://www.slideshare.net/hpcsport/breaking-barriers-to-sprint-performance)
So, my question has become this recently: why spend so much time focusing on flies and other extremely specific workouts meant to run at maximal velocity when it’s clear that its not maxV that is king, its developing a better and more efficient acceleration ability that wins races? (ignoring speed endurance for this sake of argument)
If acceleration is indeed the more important factor, what are some ideas for workouts designed to push the acceleration envelope, so to say? Early accel mechanics are clearly much different than later acceleration however force still needs to be applied to continue accelerating. This is also going to get into horizontal vs vertical forces as well. Regardless of which side you’re on, I would like ideas from both camps about this topic.
Ideas? Thoughts? I’m in a mood to ramble and brain storm.