how far would one have to triple jump to go to a d1 program? like villanova per se
going division one
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46+
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Depends what school and what conference. Big different between Fordham University and LSU.
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Viginia tech and Maryland you may be able to run there if you can go sub 11 FAT.
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do you have any idea what times it would take in the 100, 200 and 400 to run for miami, lsu, lincoln university or uri?
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Are we talking about walking on or scholariships??
You may get the best idea by going to the schools track website and seeing what most of their sprinters times are.
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i was looking into lsu and i only found 3 sub 11 runners. was i looking in the wrong place or something? i was sure theyd have more. the 400 lineup was insane though.
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And I’m sure ever one of those insane quarter milers can run under 11 seconds as well as the hurdlers and jumpers they have.
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oh yeah hahahaha. i still find it strange that there were only 3 listed though.
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KeymasterAs Quik mentioned all those 400m guys who are running sub 47 can go sub 11 seconds. In fact, in the 2003 NCAAs we won the 4×4 and 4×1 with the same 4 guys. In addition to the long sprinters, last year we also had 3 horizontal jumpers, and 1 decathlete that almost certainly would have gone sub 11 if they ran the event. The reasons you didn’t find a ton of fast 100m times at LSU is because 1). our previous men’s sprint coach (Pat Henry, who was replaced this summer by Dennis Shaver) focused primarily on the 400m both in training, recruiting, and in meet emphasis and 2). our depth gives us the luxury of not having to run our studs in more than 1-2 events per meet so they rarely if ever run outside of their specialty other than on relays. I think in the upcoming years you will see the men’s short sprints at LSU achieve similar levels of success as our long sprinters.
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[i]Originally posted by Cobras100mgld[/i]
do you have any idea what times it would take in the 100, 200 and 400 to run for miami, lsu, lincoln university or uri?I’d imagine you could walk on at most of these schools with a sub 11 FAT 100m time.
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so yeah mike…lsu…you should get me there… i can do sub 11 🙄
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any idea as to what type of grades would be needed to be accepted into any of the schools i have mentioned?
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1st thing to remember: It is Extreamly Important to read the NCAA clearinghouse manual and Know the Rules of elegibility.
Graduate from highschool.
2.5 gpa and above
top 50th percentile of your graduating class
18 act composite
-These general requirements will get you into 85% of DI institutions-if you go the community/junior college route:
(the 24 hour transfer road)1st semester – 12 hours
2nd semester – 12 hours
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1 year of solid work @ your community college (24 hours credit work)Most DI/large institutions – 2.25 GPA in 24 hours(or one year), worth of work at an accredited comminty/junior college will very likely get you in. Each school has its own individual rules but most will indefinately accept you with 2.25 – 2.5 GPA.
However, Remember –
These things do not guarentee your elegibility in athletics in your first year of residency.(The NCAA has a way of making things Harder on the people who already have it hard.)
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[i]Originally posted by Big10champ[/i]
1st thing to remember: It is Extreamly Important to read the NCAA clearinghouse manual and Know the Rules of elegibility.Graduate from highschool.
2.5 gpa and above
top 50th percentile of your graduating class
18 act composite
-These general requirements will get you into 85% of DI institutions-if you go the community/junior college route:
(the 24 hour transfer road)1st semester – 12 hours
2nd semester – 12 hours
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1 year of solid work @ your community college (24 hours credit work)Most DI/large institutions – 2.25 GPA in 24 hours(or one year), worth of work at an accredited comminty/junior college will very likely get you in. Each school has its own individual rules but most will indefinately accept you with 2.25 – 2.5 GPA.
However, Remember –
These things do not guarentee your elegibility in athletics in your first year of residency.(The NCAA has a way of making things Harder on the people who already have it hard.)
Is all this assuming that the athlete is already being recruited by that college or university
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no
it applys to anyone
85% – school’s like:
all eleven big-ten schools
all twelve bit-12 schools
alot of sec & acc schools
Pac-10
let’s not forget the DIAA school’s such as Illinois State or Northern Iowa who are only D1 at a few smaller sports. (such as track and field)The other 15% – starting with the not-so-obvious to the obvious. The not-so-obvious? – Yes, it’s true its true; *SOME* big schools keep it Real and Require you to actually be a student first. Notre Dame, Georgia’s getting tougher. Then there’s Harvard and Yale – I think we all know about how there football teams are. Guarentee every guy on there had at least a 3.8 in highschool.
Unless you’re Maurice Clarett Andy the Big Cat Katzenmoyer or Michael Vick ~ the NCAA should print a section elicitly for the not-so academically hardworks and dumb athletes (whom make up litterally 50%+ of college sports), detailing the special GPA Required+ other requirements for persons with superior athletic abilitys. Maybe a cross sectional index graph? Based a combination of things. You guys know, that graph that you see when you look through a school’s requirements or NCAA Qualifier Graph. Usually this graph is based on ACT and highschool GPA along with Core Courses Completed. They can figure your qualifying status based on these combination of things, done by the great NCAA Clearinghouse. They should take graphs like these and Get Real with them, at least; more real. Adding to the combinations the Quality’s that they Actually Look for in a person when Applying for Admission to a D1 SCHOOL.
For Example, if an athlete can run the 40 in only 4.55, then he must have a core GPA of at least 3.0. If he can run it in 4.2, then his GPA only has to be a 1.9; he only has to Pass to get to college. And, on the flipside – If this same person is Not an Athlete, You’re just tihs outta luck because now ALL the Normal Requirments APPLY TO YOU. Yes sir, it’s just too bad you couldn’t have been a more Gifted Athlete, or An Athlete At All,
Too bad you Choose music or the arts or whatever else it is that You Do – – – or else you would’ve been more Naturally Qualified to get into this Powerhouse D1 Football Factory. Places like the PreSTigeous Ohio State. Yes, “Thee” Ohio State. Home to the Athletic Directors who are contracted by the NCAA and Clearinghouse Officials to make decisions on students lives. They’re not one, they do not stand alone; but rather they Spearhead the list of Many Great schools that “Leave no stone Unturned”. Who will do Everything that they can to ensure that you as an Athlete not only Make it Into the School with your 1.5 GPA but also (Again, based on your abilitys in your sport), get to drive around 4 different vehicles a week. Very accomidating.
The sad thing is, if you Were a 6’0 /200 lb reciever outta Dade county, who could run the 40 in 4.2 flat then you wouldn’t be asking these questions now would you?
Because that’s what your new coach and athletic department would ask you not to do ~
Not ask questions.
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A scholarship (partial) from a DI school would mean you run 10.5 FAT, 20.7 FAT, 47 FAT, or Jump over 6-8, or Jump 24′ and Triple probably in 45’+ range. It also depends on how well you do multiple events, and how you can help the team score points. A DI school would never offer a scholarship to runner that is iffy in the point scoring category. If they see you are a specialist they will never take you if your times are worse than those posted.
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Right now Im only a freshman in highschool but I already know that I want to run hurdles and I’m very good at science and math as well as physiology stuff. What university should I work towards if I want to major in something like kineoseology, physiology, or other related areas while still having a good sprint hurdling team?
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As a hurdler can you do both distances? Or if you are a 110H are you good enough to run 4×1 or 4×4, or if you are a 400H, can run open 400 or 800 and 4×4.
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Then you need to be a stud hurdler. Face the facts though you are going to be asked to run relays, and if you work the turns and curves well you may want to think about the 200 as well.
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[i]Originally posted by danimal9[/i]
A scholarship (partial) from a DI school would mean you run 10.5 FAT, 20.7 FAT, 47 FAT, or Jump over 6-8, or Jump 24′ and Triple probably in 45’+ range. It also depends on how well you do multiple events, and how you can help the team score points. A DI school would never offer a scholarship to runner that is iffy in the point scoring category. If they see you are a specialist they will never take you if your times are worse than those posted.A 10.5FAT is much rarer than a 45′ TJ. The fastest time in the US at the moment is 10.4, although I am sure it will get a little bit faster. There are very few states with a 10.5 100m winner, yet almost every state has 2 or more large D1 schools.
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[i]Originally posted by danimal9[/i]
Then you need to be a stud hurdler. Face the facts though you are going to be asked to run relays, and if you work the turns and curves well you may want to think about the 200 as well.Any specific schools in mind?
I want aschool with good academics AND a good program for hurdlers.
Also, I’m a Canadian so would I have troubles getting into one of these schools? or should I just stay in Canada?
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No schools I know off right of hand, right off hand, but Mike or KW can give better input.
As for the guy stating 10.5 FAT is rarer than 45″ TJ. You are right, but schools are reluctant to give scholarships to speciality sprinters who only run 100 at 10.7 or 10.8 and don’t have the ability to help in other events. While a 45″ TJ should have the power to run at least run long sprints or become a multi-event athlete. The triple jump is one the hardest skills/events to master in track and field that is why someone with a 45″ TJ looks more valuable to a coach. He will score in a multitude of ways. If you are a 10.6 100 runner, then a sub 21 200 and a sub 48 400 runner your value increases as you have potential at other events.
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[i]Originally posted by Swiftyer[/i]
Also, I’m a Canadian so would I have troubles getting into one of these schools?It shouldn’t be a big deal.
or should I just stay in Canada?
Too bad you weren’t born a few years earlier or you could have run for hurdle master Brent McFarlane. I believe he is retiring this year though.
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A 45 TJ isn’t that impressive, definitely not on par with 24′ LJ or 10.5 100m.
Secondly TJ are just as likely to be “specialists” as anyone else besides high jumpers or vaulters. In fact I know good triple jumpers who can’t even compete well in the LJ( not to mention the sprints) even though the events appear very similar and have similar characteristics. In the TJ speed is not nearly as imprtant as the ability to maintain speed throughout the phases. -
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One of my pet peeves is people listing a time such as 10.5 as being FAT when, in fact, a Fully Automatic Timing (FAT) mark would be expressed in hundreths such as 10.50. I write that because there is a huge difference between a 10.5 runner and a 10.50 runner.
To speak to the original and subsequent questions: No, a 45′ triple jump alone won’t get you asked to be on a DI college team. It’s an average jump for a male, but back up marks which could speak to your margin for improvement would help. In the age of roster limits, versatility for a male track and field athlete is a must.
800prince is right with his marks comparison. I would expect a 24′ LJ to be able to TJ about 53-54′ and/or run a sub 10.40 100.
Hope my rambling was helpful.
There are many many Canadian athletes on US teams. It’s been my experience that they have the easiest time getting admitted to American universities due to the similarities in culture and their stringent hs academic standards. When I was in college I dated a Canadian swimmer (the one who got away!!! ((wow, was she hot)) but I digress.
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[i]Originally posted by 800prince[/i]
A 45 TJ isn’t that impressive, definitely not on par with 24′ LJ or 10.5 100m.
Secondly TJ are just as likely to be “specialists” as anyone else besides high jumpers or vaulters. In fact I know good triple jumpers who can’t even compete well in the LJ( not to mention the sprints) even though the events appear very similar and have similar characteristics. In the TJ speed is not nearly as imprtant as the ability to maintain speed throughout the phases.I’ve said before I know a mid 50 foot TJ’er (European Jr. Champ) who can’t run 10.70FAT to save his life, possibly not even break 11, yet his triple jump seems almost as fast as his running.
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