Meets are increasingly dropping the indoor 200m from their schedule because of the unfairness of lane assignments on performance. The IAAF and USATF have dropped it from their program. What are your thoughts?
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I love the indoor 2, and I’ve never even been on a banked track before. I’m sure if I ran D1 times I would have a different opinion, but its a fun race and people who bitch about lanes seem too caught up in winning the race rather than running a good time. Unless it is a championship, then bitch away.
I think the indoor 200m is a valid event when my guys are in the outside lanes. When we’re in lane 1-3, it’s not a good event.
I have a post grad guy I’m training who went to a recent big invite and lost by 0.01. Because he was the top seed in his heat he was put in lane 4. The winner came from an outside lane. I don’t have any doubt if he were in lane 6 (or even 5) he would have won with a couple hundredths to spare. This begs another question…if practically everyone recognizes that the fastest lanes are the outside lanes in the 200m…then why do we continue to make lane 4 the choice lane….it drives me nuts.
By my estimation each lane is worth 0.06-0.07s (if all else is equal). Having said that, I kinda agree with scoots….sometimes you just gotta compete and knowing the dynamics of inside and outside lanes can actually be an advantage.
Another problem I’ve found is with officials (HS) that don’t cover the inside runners carefully on the start. On numerous occasions, my athletes were shortchanged when nowhere near set the guns goes off! For the elites perhaps, ‘no problem’.
I did find this interesting:
I wanna know why its not a national event….lame
It’s not a national event because there is an inherent unfairness to the event. As I mentioned above each lane is worth about 0.06s. That means if you run 6 lanes, the guy in lane 1 has to be 0.31s faster than the guy in lane 6 just to be able to run the same time. When we’re talking about dual meets or small invitationals that’s no big deal…especially if they exclude lanes 1 & 2 from the lane draw. But at bigger meets or when championships and / or money is on the line and the difference between the best and worst guy in a final might be as little as 0.2s, it is unfair to put someone in a lane that we know for a fact could essentially eliminate any chances they have of winning the race.
i can agree with that…have to qualify for the 400 instead and wait for outdoor for the 200.
This is why I’d personally love to see indoor track go to the 60m, 300m, and 500m (or maybe 600m). That way, we wouldn’t have to explain to the general public (or athletes unfamiliar with indoor track) why the indoor times were so much slower and also the effects of lane assignment would be less significant.
It works with the lower level of athlete. All but a few HS and most NCAA D3
I use the indoor 200 in my arguement against HJ runups with as tight a curve as possible.
As in “Fast & Tight” not being compatable. The smaller radius of a HJ run’s curve when viewed at HJ runup speed is very similar to the indoor 2 to my thinking…
Here’s an image. MJ at the time he was in condition to run 19.32, running a 200 all out on an indoor track banked or unbanked…
We had an interesting case study of the effect of lane assignment on 200m performance on a banked track. We were at BU which is one of the fastest indoor tracks in the world. Check this out:
Last week (all in same race on flat track):
Athlete A in lane 5: 22.48
Athlete B in lane 3: 22.82
Athlete C in lane 1: 23.46
This week (in different races but on banked track):
Athlete A in lane 2: 22.35
Athlete B in lane 6: 22.08
Athlete C in lane 1: 23.06
I also had a 21.83 (his time from outdoors and no worse than my 3rd fastest guy in the 200m) guy go 22.50 and be the 5th fastest guy in my group out of lane 2 and a guy who was previously 23.2x (and previously about 8th in my group) go 22.49 (to move to 4th in the group) in lane 6.
I really think other than huge (numbers not importance) invitational meets, they should really just run 4, 5, 6 and have timed finals.