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    Japanese Training Secrets

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          Carl Valle on December 12, 2009 at 2:26 am #16388

          Why are people not creating a buzz with Japanese training? You would think the hype would be huge as the 4x100m went 38.03 and that is faster than the Soviet record. With wins in swimming and other sports such as wrestling, cycling, and gymnastics why do they get shafted? It doesn’t matter but I think we need to embrace everyone’s methods and not gravitate to the Yuri lemmings. Right now I am co

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          sjm136 on December 12, 2009 at 3:24 am #92394

          You want the secret on the Japanese sprint success?

          For the last 5+ years they’ve been bringing Tom Tellez over to Japan to work with their athletes/coaches and sending their top athletes/coaches over to the U.S. to work with Tellez.

          If I remember correctly 3 out of the 4 on that 4×100 were guys who have come over and worked with Tellez.

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          Nick Newman on December 12, 2009 at 4:08 am #92396

          “we need to embrace everyone’s methods”

          What a JOKE that is coming from you! How do you expect anyone to take you seriously and stop giving your posts 3/5 which is a FAIL fyi, when you contradict yourself every week!?

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          Thomas White on December 12, 2009 at 6:24 am #92402

          The point Carl is making is that people tend to fall in love with eastern bloc methods and training systems without regard for the results attained by those countries. Why the hate Nick?

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          Nick Newman on December 12, 2009 at 6:56 am #92406

          Your defending Carl and asking ME why hate? Read umm, 90% his posts and ask him the same question.

          HATE is all he knows…and my responses are just the voice of so many on this site. Trust me on that.

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          davan on December 12, 2009 at 8:34 am #92416

          lol are you serious, Nick?

          I think Carl could have phrased it more appropriately in embracing the methods of all those who are consistently successful. The Japanese, lacking the same genetic pool or population to choose from that many other countries do, still consistently has a lot of fast guys and a good 4x100m.

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          Nick Newman on December 12, 2009 at 8:36 am #92417

          LOL…

          The bodyguard arrived.

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          Carl Valle on December 12, 2009 at 10:37 am #92424

          Bodyguard? It’s not too hard to defend me from Nick. I just have to stay 7.75m away!

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          Carl Valle on December 12, 2009 at 10:47 am #92425

          You want the secret on the Japanese sprint success?

          For the last 5+ years they’ve been bringing Tom Tellez over to Japan to work with their athletes/coaches and sending their top athletes/coaches over to the U.S. to work with Tellez.

          If I remember correctly 3 out of the 4 on that 4×100 were guys who have come over and worked with Tellez.

          In Osaka Tom was there, but remember their national record is ten years old. Those statements are vague as Tellez is not spending that much time besides consulting. It’s not like he is in a high rise apartment drinking Saki for weeks at a time in Japan.

          Steve, what specifics do you have? Tellez is a classic coach and no secrets exist but clear biomechanics. It was clear his influence in the 80s and 90s and that will forever ring but you must give credit to the coaches they are working with day to day.

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          sjm136 on December 12, 2009 at 12:01 pm #92426

          My mistake, I should have stated I was referring to the success in the 4×100 the past 2 championships by the Japanese.

          I agree, you have to give credit to the Japanese coaches. They’re doing an excellent job. However, I have no idea what their names are. I’ve met a few of them when they’ve come over but that was a couple years ago.

          My point was that their using a Tellez system in training and biomechanics for the most part. Tellez has gone over there maybe (just guessing off memory) a couple times per year with coaches and athletes coming over to Houston too. I’ve watched the Japanese workout a couple times at UofH over the past several years. It’s kind of funny, but they also have a coaching website explaining his views in Japanese set up for him.

          As you said, there are no secrets, the key is correct biomechanics. From what I remember, upon coming over for the first time, the japanese had a different approach to sprinting mechanics, which has sense changed to a Tellez model.

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          Irish100m on December 12, 2009 at 11:56 pm #92430

          Who does Tellez coach at the moment

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          Craig Pickering on December 14, 2009 at 4:03 am #92458

          From what I have seen on the Japanese relay team, they get success because they put alot of time into it. Their changeovers occur very late into the box, meaning that the baton speed is higher than other teams. There is only a small margin of error here, but as they spend quite a lot of time together on camps, they can perfect it.

          You can see it quite a lot with countries with relatively weaker sprinters – Italy and Brazil spring to mind as two countries with a large emphasis on the relay, with a lot of practice (Italy have a relay camp for one week out of every 4 I believe), and, to a lesser extent, the UK. Beijing excluded, which was down to individual error, you rarely see DQ’s from GB in 4x100m anymore, wheras the USA dont fair quite as well.

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          Nick Newman on January 10, 2010 at 5:37 pm #93475

          Bodyguard? It’s not too hard to defend me from Nick. I just have to stay 7.75m away!

          and another dumb comment from you that backfired…

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