[taake]

taake on October 18, 2009 at 9:27 am #16253

I have watched Jeremy Wariner Training Tips videos:

Jeremy Wariner Training Tips

and I must say its suprising to see how he is training, and that he is NOT following the advises here on elitetrack.

strength training with lost of reps(10-15), and maximum 30 sec break between sets.
Not much focus on speed training. Lots of tempo at moderate speeds.

Maybe he is into something.

[Nick Newman]

Nick Newman on October 19, 2009 at 2:12 pm #90456

He’s a 400m runner…personally that i love that style of lifting for a 400m runner…i am friends with a couple of top 400m athletes and they also lift like that…

I sometimes train with a guy here who emailed Clyde Hart and asked him for their training plan. Clyde emailed him back with the entire years plan from 2008 for his 400m runners. He now follows their program and the lifting is very simular…

Example, they finish each weight workout right now with lifting a certain squat percentage as many times as they can…sometimes 25 times…killer…

[taake]

taake on October 19, 2009 at 11:25 pm #90464

Thats sounds fine for me. since I dont like to spend to much time in the gym 🙂
My experience so far from 400m training is that track work is most important and its important to keep the muscle loose (rigth tension) so that you can perform well on the hard track session. So I like the idea of short 30-40 minutes strength sessions with short rest.
I can just say that I have performed best on 400m with no strenth training or training with not heavy weight and more endurance type of strength.

Do you think I can train fullbody 3 days a week with this type of training or should I split it up. How many exercises, sets, reps would be ok to do?

[Matt Norquist]

Matt Norquist on October 20, 2009 at 1:54 am #90467

He’s a 400m runner…personally that i love that style of lifting for a 400m runner…i am friends with a couple of top 400m athletes and they also lift like that…

I sometimes train with a guy here who emailed Clyde Hart and asked him for their training plan. Clyde emailed him back with the entire years plan from 2008 for his 400m runners. He now follows their program and the lifting is very simular…

Example, they finish each weight workout right now with lifting a certain squat percentage as many times as they can…sometimes 25 times…killer…

Would that kind of finishing exercise have adverse effects for athletes doing other events? Or would it have no effect? Or would it possibly have some hypertrophy effect?

[taake]

taake on October 20, 2009 at 11:05 pm #90484

I have no Idea, but I would also like to know. but I think a finishing burning set might help the endurance in the uppper body needed in the last part of the 400m. Maybe I am wrong here. But its just my feeling.

[Nick Newman]

Nick Newman on October 21, 2009 at 12:03 am #90486

[quote author="Nick Newman" date="1255941755"]He’s a 400m runner…personally that i love that style of lifting for a 400m runner…i am friends with a couple of top 400m athletes and they also lift like that…

I sometimes train with a guy here who emailed Clyde Hart and asked him for their training plan. Clyde emailed him back with the entire years plan from 2008 for his 400m runners. He now follows their program and the lifting is very simular…

Example, they finish each weight workout right now with lifting a certain squat percentage as many times as they can…sometimes 25 times…killer…

Would that kind of finishing exercise have adverse effects for athletes doing other events? Or would it have no effect? Or would it possibly have some hypertrophy effect?[/quote]

Well, being a decathlete you certainly need some kind of 400m + sprinting shape. I would probably add that kind of thing into a special endurance type day when you get to that in training. I think the two compliment each other. But even for a dec guy speed/ power and explosive are probably the most trained…

[aquamanbj]

aquamanbj on October 21, 2009 at 12:04 am #90487

He’s a 400m runner…personally that i love that style of lifting for a 400m runner…i am friends with a couple of top 400m athletes and they also lift like that…

I sometimes train with a guy here who emailed Clyde Hart and asked him for their training plan. Clyde emailed him back with the entire years plan from 2008 for his 400m runners. He now follows their program and the lifting is very simular…

Example, they finish each weight workout right now with lifting a certain squat percentage as many times as they can…sometimes 25 times…killer…

any chance that you point me towards that schedule???

[Nick Newman]

Nick Newman on October 21, 2009 at 12:06 am #90488

Well yeah…that’s why i told you how he got it…

I’m assuming anyone can email Mr. Hart and ask him for it? Or whoever the Bailor coach is…

[Matt Norquist]

Matt Norquist on October 21, 2009 at 12:39 pm #90509

[quote author="Matt Norquist (WashedupDec)" date="1255983916"][quote author="Nick Newman" date="1255941755"]He’s a 400m runner…personally that i love that style of lifting for a 400m runner…i am friends with a couple of top 400m athletes and they also lift like that…

I sometimes train with a guy here who emailed Clyde Hart and asked him for their training plan. Clyde emailed him back with the entire years plan from 2008 for his 400m runners. He now follows their program and the lifting is very simular…

Example, they finish each weight workout right now with lifting a certain squat percentage as many times as they can…sometimes 25 times…killer…

Would that kind of finishing exercise have adverse effects for athletes doing other events? Or would it have no effect? Or would it possibly have some hypertrophy effect?[/quote]

Well, being a decathlete you certainly need some kind of 400m + sprinting shape. I would probably add that kind of thing into a special endurance type day when you get to that in training. I think the two compliment each other. But even for a dec guy speed/ power and explosive are probably the most trained…[/quote]

Definitely true. What I might do is on my lower intensity lifting days – do a finishing set of both a lower body lift and an upper body lift that is either till failure, or most possible reps in a minute – with a load at around 60% of 1RM. I will try it out tomorrow in the weight room and post about it.