just out of interest i'd like to compare nfl players to rugby players in terms of speed(i'm aware nfl players would absolutely rip up)
what would nfl WR, CB, RB 's run 100m in? (a rough zone would be fine)
nfl players fast?
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just out of interest i'd like to compare nfl players to rugby players in terms of speed(i'm aware nfl players would absolutely rip up)
what would nfl WR, CB, RB 's run 100m in? (a rough zone would be fine)
its hard to say to, i don't think the ave times would be anything great but if you look at some individuals times they could be fast 9.9-10.2 range.
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One of our coaches says Michael Vick has the world record for the 40 yard dash at 4.19 FAT (granted, timing pad was triggered on his own start). Ben Johnson's 40 yd was 4.32 FAT I believe (timer began with the starter's gun). There are NFL guys could have done well in track, too, and actually started there. Michael Bennet (RB) had like a 10.1# I believe FAT in the 100m at Wisconsin.
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One of our coaches says Michael Vick has the world record for the 40 yard dash at 4.19 FAT (granted, timing pad was triggered on his own start). Ben Johnson's 40 yd was 4.32 FAT I believe (timer began with the starter's gun). There are NFL guys could have done well in track, too, and actually started there. Michael Bennet (RB) had like a 10.1# I believe FAT in the 100m at Wisconsin.
Oh boy, don't get me started on the 40. I can almost guarantee you that Mike Vick doesn't have the WR in the 40y. In fact, I bet Dante Hall could beat him.
I don't think any footballer is running 9.9 unless Bob Hayes is born again. Most of the fastest NFL guys have run around 10.1x
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One of our coaches says Michael Vick has the world record for the 40 yard dash at 4.19 FAT (granted, timing pad was triggered on his own start). Ben Johnson's 40 yd was 4.32 FAT I believe (timer began with the starter's gun). There are NFL guys could have done well in track, too, and actually started there. Michael Bennet (RB) had like a 10.1# I believe FAT in the 100m at Wisconsin.Oh boy, don't get me started on the 40. I can almost guarantee you that Mike Vick doesn't have the WR in the 40y. In fact, I bet Dante Hall could beat him.
I don't think any footballer is running 9.9 unless Bob Hayes is born again. Most of the fastest NFL guys have run around 10.1x
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One of our coaches says Michael Vick has the world record for the 40 yard dash at 4.19 FAT (granted, timing pad was triggered on his own start). Ben Johnson's 40 yd was 4.32 FAT I believe (timer began with the starter's gun). There are NFL guys could have done well in track, too, and actually started there. Michael Bennet (RB) had like a 10.1# I believe FAT in the 100m at Wisconsin.Oh boy, don't get me started on the 40. I can almost guarantee you that Mike Vick doesn't have the WR in the 40y. In fact, I bet Dante Hall could beat him.
I don't think any footballer is running 9.9 unless Bob Hayes is born again. Most of the fastest NFL guys have run around 10.1x
[/quote]lol. i can beat you there is a fb player that ran 9.9.
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[quote author="saltojump5" date="1163492238"]
One of our coaches says Michael Vick has the world record for the 40 yard dash at 4.19 FAT (granted, timing pad was triggered on his own start). Ben Johnson's 40 yd was 4.32 FAT I believe (timer began with the starter's gun). There are NFL guys could have done well in track, too, and actually started there. Michael Bennet (RB) had like a 10.1# I believe FAT in the 100m at Wisconsin.Oh boy, don't get me started on the 40. I can almost guarantee you that Mike Vick doesn't have the WR in the 40y. In fact, I bet Dante Hall could beat him.
I don't think any footballer is running 9.9 unless Bob Hayes is born again. Most of the fastest NFL guys have run around 10.1x
[/quote]vick doesnt run 4.19 40 and never have, but ben did run 3.7 fb 40yd.
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Who? Leonard Scott? NFL players?
the point im trying to make there are probably few nfl guys that are in track shape just like there are few to none track guys that are in fb shape, BUT give 8-12 weeks and i guarantee you they would run blazing times, davey henderson, alvis whitted, mike bennett, randy moss, terence newman, michael huff just to name a few
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Who? Leonard Scott? NFL players?the point im trying to make there are probably few nfl guys that are in track shape just like there are few to none track guys that are in fb shape, BUT give 8-12 weeks and i guarantee you they would run blazing times, davey henderson, alvis whitted, mike bennett, randy moss, terence newman, michael huff just to name a few
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Robert Smith as a very good quarter-miler at Ohio State and Tyrone Wheatley ripped it up in the hurdles as well. Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson (decath), Darrell Green, Willie Gault in his 40's is still run in the 10.40's. Olympic gold medalist in the 4x100m relay. I think the fastest 40 ever run and NFL player was by either Darrell Green or Deion Sanders. I think….
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Tai Streets former NFL receiver was a very good long jumper and basketball player. All State in Illinois in all 3. 25ft plus long jumper. There are far less guys who can't compete with the top 30 in the US than can.
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Robert Smith as a very good quarter-miler at Ohio State and Tyrone Wheatley ripped it up in the hurdles as well. Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson (decath), Darrell Green, Willie Gault in his 40's is still run in the 10.40's. Olympic gold medalist in the 4x100m relay. I think the fastest 40 ever run and NFL player was by either Darrell Green or Deion Sanders. I think….
i agree 100%, look at the college level with jammal charles and the two clemson tiger rbs
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[quote author="mortac8" date="1163510386"]
Who? Leonard Scott? NFL players?the point im trying to make there are probably few nfl guys that are in track shape just like there are few to none track guys that are in fb shape, BUT give 8-12 weeks and i guarantee you they would run blazing times, davey henderson, alvis whitted, mike bennett, randy moss, terence newman, michael huff just to name a few
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Alot of those guys have the potential to run 9.9 but they haven't. According to the TV announcers I'd think Ted Ginn could run 9.77 🙂
[/quote]dude dont be silly
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I'm going to disagree. I'm not saying that football players can't run decent 100's, but the nature of the training that footballers go thru does not always lend itself to top level 100's. I'm not discounting guys like jamal charles and other track/football college guys, but once they get to the NFL, their training is such that they probably wouldn't run nearly as fast after their rookie year in the league as they did their senior year in college. 9.9 i think is almost definitely out of the question for anyone that currently plays in the NFL.
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I'm going to disagree. I'm not saying that football players can't run decent 100's, but the nature of the training that footballers go thru does not always lend itself to top level 100's. I'm not discounting guys like jamal charles and other track/football college guys, but once they get to the NFL, their training is such that they probably wouldn't run nearly as fast after their rookie year in the league as they did their senior year in college. 9.9 i think is almost definitely out of the question for anyone that currently plays in the NFL.
have you train any or been around any nfl guys, to know what there training is like – just curious. also if u read my post i said give any of those guys 8-12 weeks and they would be ok. IF YOU ARE FAST UR FAST – NO MATTER WHAT.
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there is a heck of a difference between football fast and track fast. They would need longer than 8-12 weeks in my opinion. I have seen a lot of football players come out for track and do track specific work. However they we never really good because of bulk and they were missing a gpp cycle. That being said, if you take a football guy and train him specifically for track, it would take longer. In year 2 I believe you'd see some serious results.
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I'm going to disagree. I'm not saying that football players can't run decent 100's, but the nature of the training that footballers go thru does not always lend itself to top level 100's. I'm not discounting guys like jamal charles and other track/football college guys, but once they get to the NFL, their training is such that they probably wouldn't run nearly as fast after their rookie year in the league as they did their senior year in college. 9.9 i think is almost definitely out of the question for anyone that currently plays in the NFL.have you train any or been around any nfl guys, to know what there training is like – just curious. also if u read my post i said give any of those guys 8-12 weeks and they would be ok. IF YOU ARE FAST UR FAST – NO MATTER WHAT.
[/quote]there is a heck of a difference between football fast and track fast. They would need longer than 8-12 weeks in my opinion. I have seen a lot of football players come out for track and do track specific work. However they we never really good because of bulk and they were missing a gpp cycle. That being said, if you take a football guy and train him specifically for track, it would take longer. In year 2 I believe you'd see some serious results. Too many things come into play to make a football player fast in 8-12 weeks. You have to change body type, mechanics, etc. You'd probably see the athlete take a step back before taking a step forward.
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heartsonfire, thanks. You just made my point for me. That's exactly what I was thinking in responce.
But to answer the specific question, I have helped train that kind of athlete. A hurdler that went out for football, came back 20 pounds heavier, and had a big drop in his track time. Now that's not to say that he couldn't get back to being fast on the track, its just that the training needed to be top notch at football doesn't really go well with top notch sprint training (ie: more bulk, more "conditioning", things like that)
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there is a heck of a difference between football fast and track fast. They would need longer than 8-12 weeks in my opinion. I have seen a lot of football players come out for track and do track specific work. However they we never really good because of bulk and they were missing a gpp cycle. That being said, if you take a football guy and train him specifically for track, it would take longer. In year 2 I believe you'd see some serious results. [quote author="utfootball4" date="1163533920"]
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I'm going to disagree. I'm not saying that football players can't run decent 100's, but the nature of the training that footballers go thru does not always lend itself to top level 100's. I'm not discounting guys like jamal charles and other track/football college guys, but once they get to the NFL, their training is such that they probably wouldn't run nearly as fast after their rookie year in the league as they did their senior year in college. 9.9 i think is almost definitely out of the question for anyone that currently plays in the NFL.have you train any or been around any nfl guys, to know what there training is like – just curious. also if u read my post i said give any of those guys 8-12 weeks and they would be ok. IF YOU ARE FAST UR FAST – NO MATTER WHAT.
[/quote]there is a heck of a difference between football fast and track fast. They would need longer than 8-12 weeks in my opinion. I have seen a lot of football players come out for track and do track specific work. However they we never really good because of bulk and they were missing a gpp cycle. That being said, if you take a football guy and train him specifically for track, it would take longer. In year 2 I believe you'd see some serious results. Too many things come into play to make a football player fast in 8-12 weeks. You have to change body type, mechanics, etc. You'd probably see the athlete take a step back before taking a step forward.
[/quote]we are not talking bout some div 3 fb player we are talking elite athletes even cf said these guys are very elite. the guys i mention are not all bulky and i promise give whitted 12 weeks and he will blaze u very nice 100 or randy moss, shit moss ran "That 21.1, was a Indoor, 150m ts track"…. no training are nothing.
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there is a heck of a difference between football fast and track fast. They would need longer than 8-12 weeks in my opinion. I have seen a lot of football players come out for track and do track specific work. However they we never really good because of bulk and they were missing a gpp cycle. That being said, if you take a football guy and train him specifically for track, it would take longer. In year 2 I believe you'd see some serious results. [quote author="utfootball4" date="1163533920"]
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I'm going to disagree. I'm not saying that football players can't run decent 100's, but the nature of the training that footballers go thru does not always lend itself to top level 100's. I'm not discounting guys like jamal charles and other track/football college guys, but once they get to the NFL, their training is such that they probably wouldn't run nearly as fast after their rookie year in the league as they did their senior year in college. 9.9 i think is almost definitely out of the question for anyone that currently plays in the NFL.have you train any or been around any nfl guys, to know what there training is like – just curious. also if u read my post i said give any of those guys 8-12 weeks and they would be ok. IF YOU ARE FAST UR FAST – NO MATTER WHAT.
[/quote]there is a heck of a difference between football fast and track fast. They would need longer than 8-12 weeks in my opinion. I have seen a lot of football players come out for track and do track specific work. However they we never really good because of bulk and they were missing a gpp cycle. That being said, if you take a football guy and train him specifically for track, it would take longer. In year 2 I believe you'd see some serious results. Too many things come into play to make a football player fast in 8-12 weeks. You have to change body type, mechanics, etc. You'd probably see the athlete take a step back before taking a step forward.
[/quote]we are not talking bout some div 3 fb player we are talking elite athletes even cf said these guys are very elite. the guys i mention are not all bulky and i promise give whitted 12 weeks and he will blaze u very nice 100 or randy moss, shizzle moss ran "That 21.1, was a Indoor, 150m ts track"…. no training are nothing.
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I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT D3 FOOTBALL PLAYERS. I DON'T CARE WHAT CF SAYS. IN 12 WEEKS THEY WOULD NOT RUN WORLD CLASS TIMES. SOME OF THE WORLD CLASS SPRINTERS NOW HAVE TO TRAIN VERY HARD TO JUST RUN 10.10 OR 10.20. I KNOW A LOT OF WORLD CLASS ATHLETES, I'VE TRAINED WITH MANY AND AM FRIENDS WITH MANY. THE GUYS ARE ELITE, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT. NO ONE CAN. TRACK SPEED IS DIFFERENT THAT FOOTBALL SPEED. THAT'S THE BOTTOMLINE, YOU CANNOT DISPUTE THAT. IT TAKES TIME TO DEVELOP FROM A FOOTBALL PLAYER TO A TRACK ATHLETE. LOOK AT THE XMAN. WHEN DID HE MAKE HIS GAINS? AFTER HE WAS DONE WITH FOOTBALL. HE A TRACK SEASON, THEN DIDN'T PLAY FOOTBALL AND BLEW UP. THAT MAKES MY POINT. OH AND I'M NOT YELLING, IT'S JUST IN CAPS.
RANDY MOSS WAS FAST, BUT HE PROBABLY SMOKES TOO MUCH BUDDHA TO RUN AS FAST AS HE DID IN THE PAST.
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come on… some nfl guys are definitely fast and have 10.30 or better speed and the only reason they aren't on the track is because they have more $$ in football. I can guarantee you that Xavier Carter wouldn't be running pro track if he was the #1 NCAA receiver, yet there is no question that he is the best 1-2-4 guy around right now and maybe the best 200m runner in the world at the moment.
Xavier Carter making gains when he was done with football? What? He ran 45.x indoor his frosh year of college a week or so after the season ended with absolutely no training. I don't think it was quitting football that got him faster. The reason he probably ran such a good 200 is because he finally ran it solely in a meet with full recovery (unlike NCAAs where he did 4 events and rounds) and against the best in the world. Running against 20.4 guys isn't the same as running against 19.6/7 guys. Oh ya, he also ran 20.69 his first or second time running a 200m indoor when he was in high school.
On the other hand I do agree that not all fb guys are fast. Jerry Rice is a good example of this. I have beaten in the 100m some starting DBs at top 25 schools and I am far from elite–doesn't mean they don't exist though.
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Never said they don't exist.
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Never said they don't exist.
like i said 12 weeks they would blaze, michael huff ran 10.3's his last year at texas and that wasnt long ago.
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No offense to anyone, but 10.3's and 9.99999999999 are worlds apart. dropping almost 1/2 a second in 3 months sounds a little extreme. The bottom line is that YES there are some very fast athletes in the NFL…just like I'm sure there are some very fast athletes in pro soccer, MLB, NBA, NHL, etc… However, without having them train to run the 100 then it's one persons "guess" as to what they can do vs. someone elses. That being said…I'd love to see some NFL's see what they could do. I'm not a world class athlete, but have seen plenty 10.3's and 10.4's and a handful of 9.'s…I think that the vast majority of NFL's with "world class speed" would be very much average on the world sprinting level.
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No offense to anyone, but 10.3's and 9.99999999999 are worlds apart. dropping almost 1/2 a second in 3 months sounds a little extreme. The bottom line is that YES there are some very fast athletes in the NFL…just like I'm sure there are some very fast athletes in pro soccer, MLB, NBA, NHL, etc… However, without having them train to run the 100 then it's one persons "guess" as to what they can do vs. someone elses. That being said…I'd love to see some NFL's see what they could do. I'm not a world class athlete, but have seen plenty 10.3's and 10.4's and a handful of 9.'s…I think that the vast majority of NFL's with "world class speed" would be very much average on the world sprinting level.
lol. not sure if you ever heard of michael bates but if you have do u think he could run 10.0-9.9?
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.I'd love to see some NFL's see what they could do. I'm not a world class athlete, but have seen plenty 10.3's and 10.4's and a handful of 9.'s…I think that the vast majority of NFL's with "world class speed" would be very much average on the world sprinting level.
I don't quite get what the lol is for, but in my last post which entered above I said the vast majority…meaning that I believe that some of them could run that fast…maybe he could…
There are entirely too many variables to say if Michael Bates, or Randy Moss or whomever could run what with different training…
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[i].I'd love to see some NFL's see what they could do. I'm not a world class athlete, but have seen plenty 10.3's and 10.4's and a handful of 9.'s…I think that the vast majority of NFL's with "world class speed" would be very much average on the world sprinting level.
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I don't quite get what the lol is for, but in my last post which entered above I said the vast majority…meaning that I believe that some of them could run that fast…maybe he could…
There are entirely too many variables to say if Michael Bates, or Randy Moss or whomever could run what with different training…
silver medal in the 200m i think he could. with the indoor 200m on 150m track i think moss could do some damage.
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Well then holy shizzle….if he trained for 12 weeks what would that be 17-18. ?
try 15. lol
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we had a pretty fast football/track athlete. :bigsmile:
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just for your interest sakes, i'll give you an idea of how much quicker nfl players are to rugby players.
I'd imagine the quicker players in world rugby would be around 10.9-11.2 with maybe a handful worldwide having any show of subbing 10.9 (examples would be habana, anesi and bobo). I'd say chavanga would run around 10.5 (he looks and is built much like a sprinter) and brett stapleton that young aussie wing can do a 10.27 FAT and he'd be by far the quickest ever. Having made the comparison I have to mention rugby players would need more aerobic conditioning then nfl players because its a continuos game of 2x40min halves and workrate for outside backs is key, but still, it's clear that athletes from America far outdo any other nation in explosive events(FULL STOP) -
Keymastervick doesnt run 4.19 40 and never have, but ben did run 3.7 fb 40yd.
Where does this stat come from. I've seen it several times. Is this something CF came up with based on a 40m split – reaction time and using hand time?
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Michael Bates has a 200m pr of 20.0
Not to take anything away from Bates as he doesn't get enough credit for being an AMAZING two sport guy but he was definitely in the right place at the right time when he made the Olympic squad (he basically came out of nowhere) and then took 3rd with what I'd imagine is one of the slower bronze medal performances in the OGs (again being a total darkhorse).
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There have definitely been some NFL guys with world class potential. Michael Bates, Benny Brazell, Willie Gault to name three all made Olympic finals. In general though I think it's safe to say that 'world class speed' is thrown around too lightly in reference to NFL guys. There are very few who at their present state could produce world class performances in the sprints.
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vick doesnt run 4.19 40 and never have, but ben did run 3.7 fb 40yd.Where does this stat come from. I've seen it several times. Is this something CF came up with based on a 40m split – reaction time and using hand time?
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Were those hand times?
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Were those hand times?
As far as I know yes. Off first reaction.
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Were those hand times?
ht just like nfl scouts time at prodays.
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Were those hand times?As far as I know yes. Off first reaction.
[/quote]The times are believable then. The 3.7 essentially becomes a high 3.9 or 4.0 auto time which seemed to definitely be possible considering Ben's amazing start.ht just like nfl scouts time at prodays.
The funny thing is that at many of those prodays they actually use timing gates but many of the scouts still prefer to use their hand times….unbelievable.
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[quote author="mike" date="1163737466"]
Were those hand times?As far as I know yes. Off first reaction.
[/quote]The times are believable then. The 3.7 essentially becomes a high 3.9 or 4.0 auto time which seemed to definitely be possible considering Ben's amazing start.ht just like nfl scouts time at prodays.
The funny thing is that at many of those prodays they actually use timing gates but many of the scouts still prefer to use their hand times….unbelievable.
[/quote]lol. which prodays have u been at, bc the ones i have attended where all handtime no auto at all, i know usc at auto this year. i would want to use my my own watch, after all they are the ones writing the big check.
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lol. which prodays have u been at, bc the ones i have attended where all handtime no auto at all, i know usc at auto this year.
I've been to 4 (1 @ OU; 3 @ LSU) and have athletes go to about 3-4 others.
i would want to use my my own watch, after all they are the ones writing the big check.
You would trust your own hand time over an FAT system? While one can get test reliability using personal hand times FAT times are better in that regard and produce more valid test results.
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lol. which prodays have u been at, bc the ones i have attended where all handtime no auto at all, i know usc at auto this year.I've been to 4 (1 @ OU; 3 @ LSU) and have athletes go to about 3-4 others.
i would want to use my my own watch, after all they are the ones writing the big check.
You would trust your own hand time over an FAT system? While one can get test reliability using personal hand times FAT times are better in that regard and produce more valid test results.
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u have to look at from the scout point of view, hes confidence in his timing etc, and i think its team policy also that each scout use there stop watch also measure all of the distances and all school have to use standard ol plates etc.
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u have to look at from the scout point of view, hes confidence in his timing etc, and i think its team policy also that each scout use there stop watch also measure all of the distances and all school have to use standard ol plates etc.
I know but it seems absurd to me that someone would take a hand time over an electronic auto time. I could see using a stopwatch as a backup timer or to bring some piece of mind that the times from the auto timing system were inline with what the scout gets.
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I know [quote author="utfootball4" date="1163819302"]
u have to look at from the scout point of view, hes confidence in his timing etc, and i think its team policy also that each scout use there stop watch also measure all of the distances and all school have to use standard ol plates etc.I know but it seems absurd to me that someone would take a hand time over an electronic auto time. I could see using a stopwatch as a backup timer or to bring some piece of mind that the times from the auto timing system were inline with what the scout gets.
[/quote]It is absurd. why would i put my fate in the hands of someones thumb reaction? No wonder so many people say they've run 4.2 in the 40.
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like my uncle say, it really doesn't matter bc if u r truly fast it doesn't matter ht, fat etc u will run a fast time. look at the truly fast guys no matter how u time them they will run fast times aka, bo jackson, deion, randy, reggie etc.
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like my uncle say, it really doesn't matter bc if u r truly fast it doesn't matter ht, fat etc u will run a fast time. look at the truly fast guys no matter how u time them they will run fast times aka, bo jackson, deion, randy, reggie etc.
Yea but there's no way to compare them. Bo might have run 4.25 and Deion 4.22 on the stopwatch (just example numbers). However in reality Bo may have actually run faster. If they did electronic timing, the scouts wouldn't have to worry about timing everyone personally. Let's them keep their job I guess. Why use a barcode reader at the supermarket when they could just hire people to manually enter the barcodes…
Again I refer to the NFL combine coverage I saw on TV. Some guy ran 3 40s. Something like 4.45, 4.59,4.60. They threw out his 4.45. *pummeling dead horse*
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like my uncle say, it really doesn't matter bc if u r truly fast it doesn't matter ht, fat etc u will run a fast time. look at the truly fast guys no matter how u time them they will run fast times aka, bo jackson, deion, randy, reggie etc.Yea but there's no way to compare them. Bo might have run 4.25 and Deion 4.22 on the stopwatch (just example numbers). However in reality Bo may have actually run faster. If they did electronic timing, the scouts wouldn't have to worry about timing everyone personally. Let's them keep their job I guess. Why use a barcode reader at the supermarket when they could just hire people to manually enter the barcodes…
Again I refer to the NFL combine coverage I saw on TV. Some guy ran 3 40s. Something like 4.45, 4.59,4.60. They threw out his 4.45. *pummeling dead horse*
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I think Gatlin's recent tryout with the Texans gives some insight on how fast NFL players are. If we look at two quotes from recent articles on the tryout we can see a couple interesting things:
Gatlin, a 6-foot-1, 180-pound native of Brooklyn, last played football in 10th grade. He is believed to have run the 40-yard dash in a blinding 4.1 seconds, and he made a spectacular 50-yard catch during the workout, according to another player who participated in the session.
This indicates a couple things:
1. A 100m world record setting athlete runs 'only' 4.1.Kubiak added: "It would be a big step for him to step up and start playing football.
"But that looks like something he is interested in.
"He did a good job (in the workout). Some of our people who were watching him were amazed at how fast he ran.
"I don't even know if he was full speed at that time. But he did catch the ball pretty good."
2. This indicates that the scouts and players (by another account I can't find now) were amazed at his speed. So either they were expecting him to not be as fast as the 'world-class' speed that 95% of all NFL players have or his time is a truly exceptional performance (which you'd expect it to be). I imagine it's the latter.
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trust me he ran faster then 4.1 call the texans.. what separate world class sprinters from fast guys is top speed…
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I don't doubt he could run faster. My main point is that players and coaches were 'amazed' at his speed….indicating that it's faster than what they're used to seeing and that a world class sprinter is likely significantly faster than most NFL players.
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