[kazm]

kazm on April 8, 2010 at 1:38 pm #16647

Hey all!

I’m a 100, 200 sprinter and am looking for some decent shoes to run with. I already have mid distance zoom rival IV’s which I’ll keep for when I do the triple jump.

I live in Toronto, Canada and I’m having some trouble finding spikes. I’m only finding low level spikes with flexible spike plates from Nike, Adidas, Brooks ect…nothing higher end, with the stiffer spike plate like the Powercats or Superfly’s except the Monster fly’s. They retail here for $100, I’m just looking for some opinions on what kind of shoe the Monster fly’s are and your opinions on it. I’ve seen some reviews and opinions on this site but I see things ranging from “this shoe is a gimmick” to “this shoe is decent but overrated” and to “the shox’s really help!”…Personally, I’m not a big fan of the shoe asthetically, its too flashy and I like some flash but not that much LOL

cheers, and thanks for the input!

Ohh and if anybody knows of any good shops in Toronto please let me know!

[davan]

davan on April 9, 2010 at 5:15 pm #97048

Pointless. Flexible spikes are often better anyway. I bought myself a very high end, very stiff spike and it has caused me, after wearing only a few times, achilles problems. I was not running any faster (to a significant degree ie >.01).

[kazm]

kazm on April 10, 2010 at 7:18 am #97078

Pointless. Flexible spikes are often better anyway. I bought myself a very high end, very stiff spike and it has caused me, after wearing only a few times, achilles problems. I was not running any faster (to a significant degree ie >.01).

Thanks for the reply;

Most people however, maintain that stiff spikes are beneficial to performance…I guess everyone is different and have alternate beliefs on comfort and stability,

What spikes do you wear?

[davan]

davan on April 10, 2010 at 8:50 am #97079

[quote author="davan" date="1270813570"]Pointless. Flexible spikes are often better anyway. I bought myself a very high end, very stiff spike and it has caused me, after wearing only a few times, achilles problems. I was not running any faster (to a significant degree ie >.01).

Thanks for the reply;

Most people however, maintain that stiff spikes are beneficial to performance…I guess everyone is different and have alternate beliefs on comfort and stability,

What spikes do you wear?[/quote]

In theory, they could be beneficial, but to what extent? If you run 11 or 12, it doesn’t matter. People have run sub 10 in Rivals (seriously) and the shoes from the 80s weren’t particularly amazing. I understand the seduction of getting into spike types and one being better than the other and I used to be there (and still occasionally) get into it myself. Some shoes are better than others, but it is usually more relative to the individual. Stiff spikes can be good for some, but can cause injuries/issues for many. That said, the Mosnterfly is overpriced at best, heavy, stiff, etc. I’d rather wear Rivals.

I wear the BigBrotha spikes, which use the Celar plate.

[kazm]

kazm on April 10, 2010 at 11:52 am #97085

[quote author="Kaz Mir" date="1270864119"][quote author="davan" date="1270813570"]Pointless. Flexible spikes are often better anyway. I bought myself a very high end, very stiff spike and it has caused me, after wearing only a few times, achilles problems. I was not running any faster (to a significant degree ie >.01).

Thanks for the reply;

Most people however, maintain that stiff spikes are beneficial to performance…I guess everyone is different and have alternate beliefs on comfort and stability,

What spikes do you wear?[/quote]

In theory, they could be beneficial, but to what extent? If you run 11 or 12, it doesn’t matter. People have run sub 10 in Rivals (seriously) and the shoes from the 80s weren’t particularly amazing. I understand the seduction of getting into spike types and one being better than the other and I used to be there (and still occasionally) get into it myself. Some shoes are better than others, but it is usually more relative to the individual. Stiff spikes can be good for some, but can cause injuries/issues for many. That said, the Mosnterfly is overpriced at best, heavy, stiff, etc. I’d rather wear Rivals.

I wear the BigBrotha spikes, which use the Celar plate.[/quote]

I see, I see, ok then. Last question (hopefully) :P…What impact do you think Mid Didtance spikes would have on speed compared to sprint spikes at say the 60-20m? Lets say Zoom Rivals MD vs Zoom Rivals S?…

[Matt Norquist]

Matt Norquist on April 10, 2010 at 12:02 pm #97086

You can get MonsterFlys for $50 on Eastbay:

https://www.eastbay.com/product/model:57262/sku:09278061/Nike Monster Fly – Men’s?supercat=home&cm=GLOBAL SEARCH: KEYWORD SEARCH#sku=09278061

I’d suspect they actually could be somewhat beneficial for slower (23+ and 51+) 200 and 400m runners with less than ideal foot strike.

[kazm]

kazm on April 10, 2010 at 12:17 pm #97088

You can get MonsterFlys for $50 on Eastbay:

https://www.eastbay.com/product/model:57262/sku:09278061/Nike Monster Fly – Men’s?supercat=home&cm=GLOBAL SEARCH: KEYWORD SEARCH#sku=09278061

I’d suspect they actually could be somewhat beneficial for slower (23+ and 51+) 200 and 400m runners with less than ideal foot strike.

Thanks for the link, unfortunately they don’t have any size 11’s!, but there are some other good spikes to order online too…What is your opinion on sprint spikes in general, stiffer plate or more flexible plate?

Also, do you have any sort of recommendation on various models for sprint spikes?

[Matt Norquist]

Matt Norquist on April 10, 2010 at 12:34 pm #97089

Personally, I’ve always preferred stiff plate.

But – to Evan’s point, there is really very little difference as it relates to performance. It is all about what you are most comfortable with.

[kazm]

kazm on April 10, 2010 at 1:50 pm #97090

Personally, I’ve always preferred stiff plate.

But – to Evan’s point, there is really very little difference as it relates to performance. It is all about what you are most comfortable with.

Ok, thanks very much…how about running a sprint with a mid distance spikes? Do you think it will be detrimental to performance?

[mortac8]

mortac8 on April 10, 2010 at 3:23 pm #97091

[quote author="Matt Norquist (WashedupDec)" date="1270883093"]Personally, I’ve always preferred stiff plate.

But – to Evan’s point, there is really very little difference as it relates to performance. It is all about what you are most comfortable with.

Ok, thanks very much…how about running a sprint with a mid distance spikes? Do you think it will be detrimental to performance?[/quote]
I have always said ~ .10 in 100m. That being said, mid distance spikes can be very good jump spikes.

[kazm]

kazm on April 11, 2010 at 3:04 am #97098

” date=”1270893231″][quote author="Kaz Mir" date="1270887659"][quote author="Matt Norquist (WashedupDec)" date="1270883093"]Personally, I’ve always preferred stiff plate.

But – to Evan’s point, there is really very little difference as it relates to performance. It is all about what you are most comfortable with.

Ok, thanks very much…how about running a sprint with a mid distance spikes? Do you think it will be detrimental to performance?[/quote]
I have always said ~ .10 in 100m. That being said, mid distance spikes can be very good jump spikes.[/quote]

Yeah, I use them for triple jump and they’re ok. I actually never knew I was sprinting in the wrong spikes until a couple of months ago. I’ll run with them next week and look to get new sprinting spikes to break into for the next meet. Thanks!

[Matt Norquist]

Matt Norquist on August 29, 2010 at 11:40 am #101516

I just picked up a pair on Ebay for like $30. Brand New. Don’t think the shox makes one iota of difference. But… Extremely comfortable, and the exact level of stiffness that I like in shoes. I’m a fan.