How many races for each of these sprint events are needed (minimum AND maximum) to run at peak form at the end of the season.
100m?
200m?
400m?
short hurdles?
long hurdles(300s and 400s)?
Thoughts?
Number of competitions needed
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well I ran my best after a year with only (6) 200m's and about (8) 400m runs..
I think a sound technical runner would need less races to find there "zone" opposed to someone who is still working out some bugs..also the sprinter's experience will have alot to do with this also..regards,
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KeymasterI agree….it depends largely on the experience of the athlete and the training that is going on leading up to and during the competitive phase.
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I know what you mean, but by knowing that I am training high school athletes (all of them are average AT THIS TIME, but have not even scratched the surface yet on their potential – all new to track like I was telling everyone a while back), what are your opinions?
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[i]Originally posted by DaGovernor[/i]
How many races for each of these sprint events are needed (minimum AND maximum) to run at peak form at the end of the season.100m?
200m?
400m?
short hurdles?
long hurdles(300s and 400s)?Thoughts?
Here is my take on actual race numbers for HS athletes..because of the training schedule most HS athletes have only 4 – 7 competitions available to them (the ladder side being for your better athletes)..
so depending on how long your athletes season will be i'd think that you can reasonably assume that 5 competitions a season for a HS athlete would be standard and that the sprinters would need about 10 – 12 races before they peak and the technical events (110m HH) would need a few more for obvious reasons..
now with the IH (300m IH/400m IH) I have always felt that HS athletes did not have the proper time duration (roughly Apr – Jun) to adequately train for this event..so I would have to say at least 15 races or roughly 7 competitions before peak times are seen..
just my thought's on the subject..
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Sounds good. Any other thoughts?
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Most highschool kids need to compete themselves into shape. There are few who do not have to. I don't know if there is a set # of meets in order to peak. I don't think you can get a set number on average athletes. Your elite high school runners, you probably can figure it out. Don't dwell on it so much, look back in your journal for your athletes this year see how they progressed, where they plateued, where they peaked, and where they began to decline. I'm sure from that you can find some raw numbers and get an idea.
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Thanks drivephase.
What about for an elite runner? What are some competition guidelines?
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A general rule for an elite athlete is that they will only compete every 2 weeks. Sometime even less in their primary event. Most of their races are planned around elite meets. 400H usually run that race as often as possible because it's such a technical race with steps, etc.
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I know what you mean Danny but I read somewhere (dont know where) a while back that you need something like 10-12 races for 100m, 6-8 races at 200m, and like 4-5 400m races. I wanted to see how much validity there was to that. Those numbers may not be right but I was looking for answers.
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[i]Originally posted by DaGovernor[/i]
I know what you mean Danny but I read somewhere (dont know where) a while back that you need something like 10-12 races for 100m, 6-8 races at 200m, and like 4-5 400m races. I wanted to see how much validity there was to that. Those numbers may not be right but I was looking for answers.Here is how one of me seasons went as far as races go. Remember that relays count for races total as well. I'm sure the numbers that you are talking about include relays.
Augustana Dual – 4x100m 41.30, 100m 10.52
SW Missouri State – 4×100 41.07, 200m 21.50
Phil Esten Challenge – 4×100 41.19
Kansas Relays – 4×100 41.07, 100m 10.52
Drake Relays – 4×100 40.72, 40.57
WIAC Conference Meet – (Day 1) 100m 10.47, 200m 21.82 – (Day 2) 4x100m 40.53, 100m 10.33, 200m 21.23
Leo Schnur Open – 4×100 40.72
NCAA Championships – (Day 1) 200m 21.18, 4×100 40.38 – (Day 2) 100m 10.45 – (Day 3) 4x100m 40.43, 100m 10.30, 200m 21.31For races total;
4x100m – 9 (best race was on the 8th race)
100m – 6 (best race was on the 6th race)
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So 8, 6, and 4 is the average for you. Any other thoughts?
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I have no thoughts on the elite level, but on the HS level, I’d say that you’d proly need the entire season to peak. Meets should most definitely be used as training during the season. If the meets are managed properly and the volume, etc. is taken into account, then you should be able to plan an entire season, with meets, to peak at the last meet. If a HS kid is peaking before then, something is proly wrong and their “peak” is not a true peak, but rather the result of overtraining. Been there, done that. Like Danny said, kids have to compete themselves into shape.
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Anyone?
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[i]Originally posted by DaGovernor[/i]
I know what you mean Danny but I read somewhere (dont know where) a while back that you need something like 10-12 races for 100m, 6-8 races at 200m, and like 4-5 400m races. I wanted to see how much validity there was to that. Those numbers may not be right but I was looking for answers.I am sure I read this at CF.com, but can’t find it now.
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Well if you or anyone else finds this info, let me know.
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From my own point of view as mainly a 200m runner who deosn’t train often I would say 6-8. Someone who is a consistent trainer with high quality Speed / Special Endurance runs in their program I think might peak a bit quicker, but I have no scientific proof of this.
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