[star61]

star61 on March 4, 2010 at 3:41 am #16578

One of the lines of evidence that has always seemed (at least to me)to indicate strength improvements could tranlate to improvements in sprint speed, has been some of the dramatic short-term improvements made by some athletes.

Example – “Before the 1988 season, Griffith-Joyner’s best 100 meter time was 10.96 seconds. In 1988 she improved that by 0.47 seconds, a time that no one has approached since. Similarly, her pre-1988 best at 200 meters was 21.96. In 1988 she improved that by 0.62 seconds to 21.34, another time which has not been approached. Griffith-Joyner attributed the change in her physique to new health programs.” – Wiki

So, I’m curious about the impact PEDs have on sprint performance. Is it purely increses in strength or are other factors improved as well.

So, is anyone aware of any studies relating to sprint speed and PEDs, especially those using study groups who did and did not lift weights?

[utfootball4]

utfootball4 on March 4, 2010 at 5:07 am #95443

Who knows…. If she wasn’t strong before then I’m sure they did help but most elite athletes benefit from the recovery and CNS stimulating effects.

[Eric Broadbent]

Eric Broadbent on March 4, 2010 at 5:27 am #95444

I am pretty sure Carmelita Jeter is doing some testing with that. Hopefully the results will be in soon on her study…

[utfootball4]

utfootball4 on March 4, 2010 at 5:28 am #95445

I am pretty sure Carmelita Jeter is doing some testing with that. Hopefully the results will be in soon on her study…

What does that suppose to mean????

[Eric Broadbent]

Eric Broadbent on March 4, 2010 at 5:33 am #95446

I don’t think she is legit! At all!

[utfootball4]

utfootball4 on March 4, 2010 at 5:37 am #95447

I don’t think she is legit! At all!

Cmon,hard work and good coaching.

[sizerp]

sizerp on March 4, 2010 at 6:18 am #95450

I don’t think she is legit! At all!

Any particular reason for singling her out?

[Eric Broadbent]

Eric Broadbent on March 4, 2010 at 6:23 am #95451

It just doesn’t seem like her progressions are normal. Who knows, maybe she is legit but the people I see make improvements at that level usually make smaller performance improvements as apposed to giant leaps. The same could be said for Usain Bolt.

[utfootball4]

utfootball4 on March 4, 2010 at 6:34 am #95452

It just doesn’t seem like her progressions are normal. Who knows, maybe she is legit but the people I see make improvements at that level usually make smaller performance improvements as apposed to giant leaps. The same could be said for Usain Bolt.

It’s not fair to those athletes. Until they fail a drug test they are innocent.

[sizerp]

sizerp on March 4, 2010 at 6:36 am #95453

It just doesn’t seem like her progressions are normal. Who knows, maybe she is legit but the people I see make improvements at that level usually make smaller performance improvements as apposed to giant leaps. The same could be said for Usain Bolt.

This post is about her progress:
https://www.charliefrancis.com/community/showpost.php?p=231227&postcount=1999
(not sure if one can see it without registration though)

As far as Bolt goes, I would argue that no one has the complete information necessary to reach a conclusion about the progress he would make if he develops his potential in a “conventional” way. Up to 2 years ago he used to compete in the 200m almost exclusively, then all of a sudden adding the 100m to his repertoire, thus disrupting his former 200m development. Maybe he would’ve taken more time to get down to 19.19 had he stayed in the 200m only, maybe the 100m helps his top speed more. My point is since he has changed the format of his training and competing in such a way, it is not wise to expect his progress curve not to change.

[Eric Broadbent]

Eric Broadbent on March 4, 2010 at 6:38 am #95454

It’s not fair to every athlete out there that is legit either though. Part of me hopes Bolt and other people out there are legit but I find myself always questioning a performance or not getting too excited about it because of all of the drug busts and everything, and I’m not even a pessimist! I wan’t to believe but I can’t. I guess they are very skeptically innocent then in my mind, how about that?

[Eric Broadbent]

Eric Broadbent on March 4, 2010 at 6:41 am #95455

See I look at that new stiffness and strength that has improved her technique and say…was that naturally acquired through hard work or were PED’s involved…

[Eric Broadbent]

Eric Broadbent on March 4, 2010 at 7:07 am #95456

Did Jeter just pick up some weights and do some stiffness jumps at the start of her what 4th season training post college and suddenly poof there goes half a second. Where her coaches prior to that really depriving her of that much?

[Nick Newman]

Nick Newman on March 4, 2010 at 7:59 am #95464

I think she is more legit than Bolt is. Many athletes truly peak during their early 30’s when they’ve been training a long time.

[star61]

star61 on March 4, 2010 at 1:12 pm #95477

I almost used Jeter as a second example. UT, you said CNS benefits…can you share some references on that point?

[mortac8]

mortac8 on March 4, 2010 at 2:46 pm #95481

they’re part of the carmelita to carmelo transformation project. i kid, i kid.

anyway, there aren’t many studies on wroidz because they are illegal…unless you want secret 1980s german documents.

[star61]

star61 on March 5, 2010 at 3:38 am #95487

” date=”1267694243″]they’re part of the carmelita to carmelo transformation project. i kid, i kid.

anyway, there aren’t many studies on wroidz because they are illegal…unless you want secret 1980s german documents.

There are studies of PEDs and strength and PEDs and hypertrophy, so just interested to know if there were many on PEDs and sprinting or jumping. I’m still searching.

[davan]

davan on March 5, 2010 at 4:52 am #95492

They’re called the East German Stasi files. Pretty obviously there are no studies involving PEDs of pretty much any kind to my knowledge on highly trained athletes. It just isn’t going to happen. I don’t know if this thread is intended to be a joke or what, but this seems borderline ridiculous.