I wanted to share what I have learned from smart coaches who have shared their wisdom with me over the years. For simplicity sake I will just list what I have learned instead of getting into long history or other ramblings. I have a good taste in what is good information and what is just marketing nonsense. I see a lot of blogs talking about high intensity elements but without sharing the details
Plyometrics- Devil in the Details
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“I like low and wide boxes for bounding as it helps with pretension firing routines and yes the wireless EMG supports this theory of Dan Pfaff from the Las Vegas Level III school. ”
Nice post, do you have a link to the wirless EMG stuff from Vegas?
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Joe,
I understand that muscles are active and develop tension in preparation for movement even before ground contact, but could you please explain/define what a pretension firing routine is and how the use of low and wide boxes enhance this when bounding. (I ask with no condescension and please don’t see this as me questioning you personally/professionally, I just want you to elaborate). Ultimately, with pre-tension firing routine, are we just complicating the term coordination or movement pattern? -
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Jason I was quoting Carl and asking him a question.
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“I like low and wide boxes for bounding as it helps with pretension firing routines and yes the wireless EMG supports this theory of Dan Pfaff from the Las Vegas Level III school. ”
Nice post, do you have a link to the wirless EMG stuff from Vegas?
If you are looking for EMG activity before landing (sprinting) it exists with Anterior Tib. I just don’t have URLs for the level 3 school. I took notes and videotaped.
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Jason I was quoting Carl and asking him a question.
Sorry about that.
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[quote author="Joe Houze" date="1360477471"]“I like low and wide boxes for bounding as it helps with pretension firing routines and yes the wireless EMG supports this theory of Dan Pfaff from the Las Vegas Level III school. ”
Nice post, do you have a link to the wirless EMG stuff from Vegas?
If you are looking for EMG activity before landing (sprinting) it exists with Anterior Tib. I just don’t have URLs for the level 3 school. I took notes and videotaped.[/quote]
What is a “pretension firing routine”?
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[quote author="Carl Valle" date="1360737444"][quote author="Joe Houze" date="1360477471"]“I like low and wide boxes for bounding as it helps with pretension firing routines and yes the wireless EMG supports this theory of Dan Pfaff from the Las Vegas Level III school. ”
Nice post, do you have a link to the wirless EMG stuff from Vegas?
If you are looking for EMG activity before landing (sprinting) it exists with Anterior Tib. I just don’t have URLs for the level 3 school. I took notes and videotaped.[/quote]
What is a “pretension firing routine”?[/quote]
activity before ground contact and it will be different based on the level of the athlete and type of action.
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[quote author="Jason Roe" date="1360744392"][quote author="Carl Valle" date="1360737444"][quote author="Joe Houze" date="1360477471"]“I like low and wide boxes for bounding as it helps with pretension firing routines and yes the wireless EMG supports this theory of Dan Pfaff from the Las Vegas Level III school. ”
Nice post, do you have a link to the wirless EMG stuff from Vegas?
If you are looking for EMG activity before landing (sprinting) it exists with Anterior Tib. I just don’t have URLs for the level 3 school. I took notes and videotaped.[/quote]
What is a “pretension firing routine”?[/quote]
activity before ground contact and it will be different based on the level of the athlete and type of action.[/quote]
Muscles are definitely active before ground contact, but the concept of “pre-tension firing routines” has to explained or clarified and the mechanism of potential enhancement of this phenomenon with use of “low and wide boxes” has to be explained or you potentially end up with a “monkey see, monkey do” or copycat approach to coaching; meaning you may have coaches that read a post like this (that on the whole had a lot of great information in it) having their athletes bounding on or off boxes saying “I am enhancing pre-tension firing routines”, and they may have no idea what that means.
How do pretension firing routines change based on the level of athlete?
How do pretension firing routines change based on the type of action?
Are pretension firing routines trainable and how do they change in response to different types of training?
Do pretension firing routines fall under the umbrella of coordination?
Maybe the concept was explained in greater detail at the Las Vegas Level III school that it was attributed to the original post. I apologize for my lack of undertsnading of the term, just looking for clarification.
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[quote author="Carl Valle" date="1360830343"][quote author="Jason Roe" date="1360744392"][quote author="Carl Valle" date="1360737444"][quote author="Joe Houze" date="1360477471"]“I like low and wide boxes for bounding as it helps with pretension firing routines and yes the wireless EMG supports this theory of Dan Pfaff from the Las Vegas Level III school. ”
Nice post, do you have a link to the wirless EMG stuff from Vegas?
If you are looking for EMG activity before landing (sprinting) it exists with Anterior Tib. I just don’t have URLs for the level 3 school. I took notes and videotaped.[/quote]
What is a “pretension firing routine”?[/quote]
activity before ground contact and it will be different based on the level of the athlete and type of action.[/quote]
Muscles are definitely active before ground contact, but the concept of “pre-tension firing routines” has to explained or clarified and the mechanism of potential enhancement of this phenomenon with use of “low and wide boxes” has to be explained or you potentially end up with a “monkey see, monkey do” or copycat approach to coaching; meaning you may have coaches that read a post like this (that on the whole had a lot of great information in it) having their athletes bounding on or off boxes saying “I am enhancing pre-tension firing routines”, and they may have no idea what that means.
How do pretension firing routines change based on the level of athlete?
How do pretension firing routines change based on the type of action?
Are pretension firing routines trainable and how do they change in response to different types of training?
Do pretension firing routines fall under the umbrella of coordination?
Maybe the concept was explained in greater detail at the Las Vegas Level III school that it was attributed to the original post. I apologize for my lack of undertsnading of the term, just looking for clarification.[/quote]
Couldn’t have put it better myself,
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Muscles are definitely active before ground contact, but the concept of “pre-tension firing routines” has to explained or clarified and the mechanism of potential enhancement of this phenomenon with use of “low and wide boxes” has to be explained or you potentially end up with a “monkey see, monkey do” or copycat approach to coaching; meaning you may have coaches that read a post like this (that on the whole had a lot of great information in it) having their athletes bounding on or off boxes saying “I am enhancing pre-tension firing routines”, and they may have no idea what that means.
Yes, Lord, preach it brother; I’m in full agreement.
How do pretension firing routines change based on the level of athlete?
How do pretension firing routines change based on the type of action?
Are pretension firing routines trainable and how do they change in response to different types of training?
Do pretension firing routines fall under the umbrella of coordination?
Maybe the concept was explained in greater detail at the Las Vegas Level III school that it was attributed to the original post. I apologize for my lack of undertsnading of the term, just looking for clarification.
Great questions and excellent topics of discussion. Thank you, Jason.
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Carl you seem to have forgotten to reply….
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Carl you seem to have forgotten to reply….
Joe and Jason,
Great questions. I think it would be great to see more contribution besides just me. I figured the blog would give some tips but didn’t expect to have a Q and A session.
Why not share your thoughts since smart questions usually are asked by smart people. What are your investigations telling you?
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