It looks like daniel bailey may have tested positive for a banned substance. this is usain bolt’s training partner and one of 3 that have been caught for some form of illegal doping. the others are yohan blake, marvin anderson and now daniel bailey. All three are part of the Racers Track Club with Bolt. The article is below.
positive drug test of 100m finalist from berlin
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KeymasterI was told earlier today that it was Bailey. Same friend told me about Gatlin’s bust 3 weeks before that went public so he’s been right before.
If true, that’s not good news…kinda reminiscent of the way Balco started to unfold with the Modafinil busts. If this is confirmed it will make 3 doping offenses out of the Mills / Bolt camp.
Where there’s smoke there’s fire…
There’s always some truth behind every rumor…
Perception is reality…ELITETRACK Founder
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If you think back Kim Collins won the world championships when the drug suspects weren’t competing in 10 point. His times have stayed stagnant but before and after him huge 9 point times have been the norm. In my honest opinion though, ethical thoughts aside i dont think athletics could handle Bolt ever testing positive as it would ruin the sport. ‘If’ he did happen to be on PED’s i honestly wouldn’t mind it being kept under wraps for athletics sake.
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If you think back Kim Collins won the world championships when the drug suspects weren’t competing in 10 point. His times have stayed stagnant but before and after him huge 9 point times have been the norm. In my honest opinion though, ethical thoughts aside i dont think athletics could handle Bolt ever testing positive as it would ruin the sport. ‘If’ he did happen to be on PED’s i honestly wouldn’t mind it being kept under wraps for athletics sake.
I agree. It would shattered the world of track and field. No more sponsors, audience, fans. Youngsters wouldn’t join athletics any more.
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BOLT!!! CLEAN!!! END OF STORY. This must be the most anti-track site on the web! BTW, where’s Tyson Gay for the 200m? Maybe he is afraid that his drug tests might come out positive? Nah. Tyson Gay, like Bolt, doesn’t need PED’s. Both decent guys. LONG LIVE TRACK!!!
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I was told earlier today that it was Bailey. Same friend told me about Gatlin’s bust 3 weeks before that went public so he’s been right before.
If true, that’s not good news…kinda reminiscent of the way Balco started to unfold with the Modafinil busts. If this is confirmed it will make 3 doping offenses out of the Mills / Bolt camp.
Where there’s smoke there’s fire…
There’s always some truth behind every rumor…
Perception is reality…SHAME ON YOU MIKE! What kind of forum are you running here? You of all persons should know better. Stop the hate dude.
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To flat out say Bolt is on drugs is unfair. To wonder whether Bolt is on PED’s in my opinion isn’t anti-track rather one being observant. Personally i dont care whether he is or isnt on them because at this point it has no relevance. The best thing for the sport would be for him to be clean and thats the way it should stay regardless. Gay wasn’t mentioned because he wasn’t as obviously remarkable but the chances of him being on PED’s would be similar. The reason you will get people questioning whether bolt is on PED’s is that he is miles infront of those who have already tested positive, he had been improving by increments of point 1 for close to 4 years before improving dramtically in the 200m, a host of his training partners have tested positive, and Jamaica has only developed a drug testing program in the last year. I cant say whether he is or isnt on them, but noticing certain anomalies doesnt make me negative just observant.
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I was told earlier today that it was Bailey. Same friend told me about Gatlin’s bust 3 weeks before that went public so he’s been right before.
If true, that’s not good news…kinda reminiscent of the way Balco started to unfold with the Modafinil busts. If this is confirmed it will make 3 doping offenses out of the Mills / Bolt camp.
Where there’s smoke there’s fire…
There’s always some truth behind every rumor…
Perception is reality…What kind of smoke? Cough medicine, asthma medication, head-ache tablet, stimulant in a drink kinda smoke?
Or is the rumour something more disappointing?
Is it systematic?
Why point the finger at only one superhero? There are a number of extraordinary performances some of which looked to be a perfect execution of technique and race strategy.
Not guilty at this stage! All civilised societies must follow due process. But the news/rumours are disappointing nonetheless. -
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If you think back Kim Collins won the world championships when the drug suspects weren’t competing in 10 point. His times have stayed stagnant but before and after him huge 9 point times have been the norm. In my honest opinion though, ethical thoughts aside i dont think athletics could handle Bolt ever testing positive as it would ruin the sport. ‘If’ he did happen to be on PED’s i honestly wouldn’t mind it being kept under wraps for athletics sake.
Yeah no! If anyone is cheating then we must disclose it fully to our audience and our fellow participants. No cover-ups. Yes if a big star did take something deliberately to enhance their performance it would be devastating for athletics but it would be wrong to continue to cheat our audience.
Full disclosure.
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IAAF: all 100m tests negative (source: https://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/281964,iaaf-all-100m-tests-negative.html).
From the press release: “All the test results are negative. Please note that all the athletes involved in this final have also tested negative in all other tests carried out prior to the 100m final…”
It seems that the latest rumor started even before the tests had been analyzed.
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ParticipantThe rumor is about someone testing positive earlier than WC, before the games began. Not in germany but on the tour. I am 50/50 about this and it looks like Mike was right about Daniel.
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I’ve mostly been following the Scandinavian tabloid papers, and it seems they couldn’t really decide which narrative to go with; before or during Berlin. At least according to the more reputable Scandinavian news outlets, the rumor started out with a rumor about a t-positive ‘during’ Berlin, and then transformed into a ‘before’ Berlin rumor.
The way I read the official statement by IAAF is that they’re now debunking both possibilities, thus “… all the athletes involved in this final have also tested negative in all other tests carried out prior to the 100m final …” (emphasis mine).
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[quote author="Mike Young" date="1250677975"]I was told earlier today that it was Bailey. Same friend told me about Gatlin’s bust 3 weeks before that went public so he’s been right before.
If true, that’s not good news…kinda reminiscent of the way Balco started to unfold with the Modafinil busts. If this is confirmed it will make 3 doping offenses out of the Mills / Bolt camp.
Where there’s smoke there’s fire…
There’s always some truth behind every rumor…
Perception is reality…SHAME ON YOU MIKE! What kind of forum are you running here? You of all persons should know better. Stop the hate dude.[/quote]
Mike never used to say anything, but now he’s is just saying what we all know and we all see. People don’t go 10.0X to 9.69 in a year. People don’t go 19.7X to 19.30. Hell, I don’t know for sure that anyone under 10 is clean. And these busts do seem to come in camps (Trevor Graham, HSI, CF’s group). We want to be optimistic, but optimism is a feeling, not reality.
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Yeah no! If anyone is cheating then we must disclose it fully to our audience and our fellow participants. No cover-ups. Yes if a big star did take something deliberately to enhance their performance it would be devastating for athletics but it would be wrong to continue to cheat our audience.
Full disclosure.
Think about it logically. If theoretically he did test positive the entire world would have seen 9.69second runs and 9.58second runs and and then revert back to seeing guys sprint in 9.8-10seconds. The mystery would disappear from the sport and the Iaaf would lose absolute millions. The guy hasn’t tested positive so its a non-issue but i still think that if it did happen the findings would have to be covered up somehow. That being said Marion Jones was tested hundreds of times and never returned a positive test.
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[quote]Yeah no! If anyone is cheating then we must disclose it fully to our audience and our fellow participants. No cover-ups. Yes if a big star did take something deliberately to enhance their performance it would be devastating for athletics but it would be wrong to continue to cheat our audience.
Full disclosure.
Think about it logically. If theoretically he did test positive the entire world would have seen 9.69second runs and 9.58second runs and and then revert back to seeing guys sprint in 9.8-10seconds. The mystery would disappear from the sport and the Iaaf would lose absolute millions. The guy hasn’t tested positive so its a non-issue but i still think that if it did happen the findings would have to be covered up somehow. That being said Marion Jones was tested hundreds of times and never returned a positive test.[/quote]
The world recovered after Ben Johnson lowered the WR from 9.93 to 9.83, and then to 9.79.
Full transparency is a must now, after Balco especially, even if it wasn’t back in the 80’s early 90’s. -
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[quote author="tyler" date="1250750435"][quote]Yeah no! If anyone is cheating then we must disclose it fully to our audience and our fellow participants. No cover-ups. Yes if a big star did take something deliberately to enhance their performance it would be devastating for athletics but it would be wrong to continue to cheat our audience.
Full disclosure.
Think about it logically. If theoretically he did test positive the entire world would have seen 9.69second runs and 9.58second runs and and then revert back to seeing guys sprint in 9.8-10seconds. The mystery would disappear from the sport and the Iaaf would lose absolute millions. The guy hasn’t tested positive so its a non-issue but i still think that if it did happen the findings would have to be covered up somehow. That being said Marion Jones was tested hundreds of times and never returned a positive test.[/quote]
The world recovered after Ben Johnson lowered the WR from 9.93 to 9.83, and then to 9.79.
Full transparency is a must now, after Balco especially, even if it wasn’t back in the 80’s early 90’s.[/quote]Has it really though? Until Bolt, when was the last time track and field was mentioned outside of the Olympics? Not very often. Ben Johnson and Carl Lewis were legitimately celebrity athletes at the time and made money comparable to top athletes in other sports (Ben was getting like $5-6 million a year from 87-88). I think it really hurt the sport and it never has fully recovered–I know most of my family knows nothing about athletics, but they remember Ben versus Carl and the whole saga.
Plus, IAAF/USATF/IOC/USOC/etc. have already done tons of cover ups before Ben Johnson and well after and even post-Balco if you look hard enough (there is a well known sprinter right now, who took home a medal from the Beijing Olympics, who had a positive test in 2005 and it was never brought to light).
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I think it has recovered, but no not to its full hype that track used to have. I think multiple things have contributed to that however and not just the drug busts. I think the increase in childhood specialization in football, basketball, etc, has relegated track to an offseason conditioning sport rather than a focus in the US.
As for the cover ups, I remember when an athlete got thrown under the bus even when his numbers didn’t match the test samples numbers but I can’t remember who or where.
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Steve Mullings from Jamaica in 05 I want to say.
Track still has the highest participation of any sport in high school (soccer is catching up I think), so while specialization may be a part, I just don’t see that necessarily affecting the actual popularity. Tennis and golf are more popular (by viewers) and they have much less participation then track.
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Thats the guy. That was a messed up story. Did some digging and found the article again I remembered. https://web.archive.org/web/20050828045345/https://www.trackshark.com/articles/2005/14.php
Track does have a ridiculously high participation rate, but in my area at least, it is all but an after thought except for a select group (sans distance runners). My high schools track team gets 180+ people every year, but the amount that actually take it seriously outside of the season is minuscule. The football and basketball teams have a large core of dedicated, single sport athletes yet the track team had 3-4 sprinters. I feel, and I admit this isn’t based off of anythign but my observations and experience, that the early specialization that vern is always talking about is one of the reasons track is less popular.
The main reason I think is that track simply isn’t marketable in its current format, but this is all another topic.
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[quote]Yeah no! If anyone is cheating then we must disclose it fully to our audience and our fellow participants. No cover-ups. Yes if a big star did take something deliberately to enhance their performance it would be devastating for athletics but it would be wrong to continue to cheat our audience.
Full disclosure.
Think about it logically. If theoretically he did test positive the entire world would have seen 9.69second runs and 9.58second runs and and then revert back to seeing guys sprint in 9.8-10seconds. The mystery would disappear from the sport and the Iaaf would lose absolute millions. The guy hasn’t tested positive so its a non-issue but i still think that if it did happen the findings would have to be covered up somehow. That being said Marion Jones was tested hundreds of times and never returned a positive test.[/quote]
It would be devastating for athletics but we can’t hide the truth from our audience. It’s not fair that drug cheats ruin it for the rest of us but we’ll have to work hard to find a way to rebuild the sport again. (I’m certain someone will be found soon – based on “track” record).
If I can be selfish for a minute it would help my cause if people got turned away from athletics. This time last year (pre-Beijing) I would share the track with one other. Now there are 200 adolescents training hard. It’s too crowded. There is too much interest in ahtletics now. Bolt, McLennan, etc have brought it back. I actually think these kids wouldn’t even know if someone was caught and banned. They saw something magic that they want to emmulate and they will. They’re not just running around they are applying themselves. If we get a white person under 10 seconds that would help the sport further.
The good thing about this website is that collectively we seem to be trying to do that amongst helping everyone in general. -
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It’s not 100m nor men’s but…
Nigeria’s Amaka Ogoegbunam, who competed in the women’s 400 metres hurdles at the world championships and was due to run in the 4×400 relay, has tested positive for the steroid metenolone, the IAAF said Friday.
The 19-year-old tested positive in an in-competition test on August 18, International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) spokesman Nick Davies told reporters, adding the athlete had been provisionally suspended.
Metenolone is a performance-enhancing anabolic steroid.
The Nigerian, who raced in the first round but was disqualified in the semi-final, now faces a minimum two-year ban for first-time offenders.
“She did not request a B sample test,” said Davies.
Ogoegbunam is the second athlete to test positive for banned substances at the world championships which started in Berlin on August 15 and run until Sunday.
Moroccan Jamel Chatbi had to withdraw from the 3,000 metres steeplechase final after testing positive for the stimulant clenbuterol.
The IAAF will conduct a total of around 1,000 drugs tests during the championships.
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