[flight05]

flight05 on April 24, 2003 at 11:25 pm #8360

first meet of the year was indoors it was like 2 weeks ago almost.

i jumped 6m even in the LJ dispite landing straight up with my arm in the air to prevent my hand from becoming dirty because i had stabbed my hand on my spikes in the previous jump and was bleeding at he time.

This was a huge pb for me as last year i jumped 5.80.

last night at the field meet i jumped 3 jumps because there was no finals, and jumped 6.11, 6.03, 6.05. These were all pb’s for me but more importantly they were on a garbage roll up rubber track with a 4.5+ headwind!!!!!

all might jumps were over 6m so i am making progress i attribute this to th increase in speed on the runway i now have. my technique has improved as well as i now actually have a penultimate step. I jump with a hitch kick style by the way. In triple jump I fouled 2/3 attempts and they were all huge except for the one that counted which was only 12.48m. oh well ill get it next time.

next meet i get to run the 100, that should be exciting, i want to get sub 11.

thanks

[mikhail]

mikhail on April 25, 2003 at 6:52 am #19952

hmmmmm….if you can run sub 11s, u can pretty much jump near 7 and meybe even farther, and 14++ for TJ. Im not very fast, thats the area i need to improve on ( im white ^.^ ) , i only run 11.7, and with this speed jumped 6.7 LJ and 13.55 TJ.

( fast speed = better long jumper ex:carl lewis
this is however not the case in TJ, ex: jonathan edwards )

[QUIKAZHELL]

QUIKAZHELL on April 25, 2003 at 6:58 am #19953

11.00 22’0 for me.
i didnt jump last year when i ran 10.6 hand.

[Mike Young]

Mike Young on April 28, 2003 at 8:58 am #19954

Jonathan Edwards is actually very fast AT the board. He was / is similar in fact to Mike Powell in that his 100m speed isn’t world class but he can reach velocities at the board (only sustained for about 5m) that are as fast or faster than anyone else out there. His other big thing is that his speed maintenance through his phases is better than anyone else out there. Check out this link for a brief biomechanical comparison of Edwards to other jumpers at the 95 WC:

ELITETRACK Founder

[flight05]

flight05 on April 29, 2003 at 2:17 am #19955

[i]Originally posted by mikhail[/i]
hmmmmm….if you can run sub 11s, u can pretty much jump near 7 and meybe even farther, and 14++ for TJ. Im not very fast, thats the area i need to improve on ( im white ^.^ ) , i only run 11.7, and with this speed jumped 6.7 LJ and 13.55 TJ.

( fast speed = better long jumper ex:carl lewis
this is however not the case in TJ, ex: jonathan edwards )

hey i never said i could run sub 11 although i think i can.

my biggest problem than must be im slowing down on the runway. we’ll see tomorrow.

hopefully i can get some speed down the runway and blow up my pb’s.

thanks

PS im white too

[Kebba Tolbert]

Kebba Tolbert on April 29, 2003 at 2:43 am #19956

[i]Originally posted by mike[/i]
…Jonathan Edwards is actually very fast [b] AT[/b] the board. He was / is similar in fact to Mike Powell in that his 100m speed isn’t world class but he can reach velocities at the board…..

Powell actually has some very fast 150’s in training — reportedly sub-15.0

[flight05]

flight05 on May 1, 2003 at 9:53 pm #19957

i jumped 6.12 today but again with a head wind …. even worse this time. i still feel im not getting enough speed right now….have to wait for some tailwind.

[mikhail]

mikhail on May 2, 2003 at 6:46 am #19958

sounds like u live in a windy place flight….
yes you should always wait for the wind to setle, also think about not giving it a 100% start when your jumping accelerate as you come closer to the board, and your last 5-3 strides should always be at top speed, never slow down at the board.

Hope this helps………..

[fluke]

fluke on May 2, 2003 at 5:41 pm #19959

mikhail-

i thought you were suppose to be at max. velocity about 4 steps before the board then more controlled at the board? not slowing down, but not at full speed.

[flight05]

flight05 on May 3, 2003 at 9:36 pm #19960

i jumped 6.30m in long jump yesterday with no wind yeah!!
today i didnt jump well in the TJ, i only jumped 12 m into a ridiculous head wind. Todays wind is really bad over 40km/h.

oh well the lj was a record at the meet, and the best so far in ontario….hopefuly i can improve…my dad video taped me as well…

[fluke]

fluke on May 4, 2003 at 1:54 am #19961

flight05

can you post a clip?

[flight05]

flight05 on May 4, 2003 at 2:17 am #19962

the one taped wasnt my best jump…
i dont know how to post, we’ll see later tonight, ill try

[mikhail]

mikhail on May 5, 2003 at 3:03 am #19963

Fluke,

You dont have to be at your 100% speed, that also does’nt mean you should be at 90% of your speed, but whatever you do dont slow down…

The faster you are at the board the better you will jump.

At the board you have to be able to transform veritcal velocity to horizontal velocity, taking this concept, if your verical velocity is fast, you horizontal velocity will be fast too, to carry your body farther. Thats what the runway in LJ and TJ is for. Use it. This principle is very important for LJ.

For TJ its different, you are trying to maintain your vertical velocity as far as possible through out 3 phases.

[flight05]

flight05 on May 5, 2003 at 6:31 am #19964

as of right now my home computer cant load the software as it is far too advanced for my computer

i mnight have to go to someone’s house tomorrow and try it.

i have notied alot of things wrong with my running mechanics as it is the first time i have sen myself on video

my step phase isnt so bad afterall…

i dont get enough knee drive either while im running.

[Mike Young]

Mike Young on May 5, 2003 at 9:15 am #19965

Mikhail,
I think you’re mixing up veritical and horizontal.

[i]Originally posted by mikhail[/i]
Fluke,

You dont have to be at your 100% speed, that also does’nt mean you should be at 90% of your speed, but whatever you do dont slow down…

The faster you are at the board the better you will jump.

At the board you have to be able to transform veritcal velocity to horizontal velocity, taking this concept, if your verical velocity is fast, you horizontal velocity will be fast too, to carry your body farther. Thats what the runway in LJ and TJ is for. Use it. This principle is very important for LJ.

For TJ its different, you are trying to maintain your vertical velocity as far as possible through out 3 phases.

ELITETRACK Founder

[mikhail]

mikhail on May 5, 2003 at 11:16 am #19966

woops……….your rite mike ^.^
fluke, replace vertical with horizontal and horizontal with vertical………………lolz

[flight05]

flight05 on May 17, 2003 at 7:48 am #19967

(after passing up the 100, flight05 is now focusing on the 110 HH)
———
We completed our two day city meet today and did fairly well setting two pb's on the last day.

On the first day i did long jump and only had one good jump the entire competition–a fault. my best ended up being 5.77m officially, but unofficially i jumped so far on my first attempt when the wind was rather settle. it was at least mid-6m so i was happy. The rest of the jumps i was forced to run into another monster headwind of like 5 or something. i wasnt happy.

Today in triple jump i got over 13 for the first time and jumped 13.11. There was no wind at all today…nice and perfect conditions. I broke the city record (13.50) on my second last jump…but….they called it a fault!!! They measured it for fun though, and it was 13.55!!! huge jump for me. but it doesnt count, and no one will ever know because it wont be recorded…..
:mad::(:mad:

next week i want to get past that mark and hopefully flirt with 14 at ofssa. challenge the silver…
The hurdles: i ran good enough to win because their wasnt anybody in my heat (im the only hurdler in the city) and ran a decent 16.1

everything is on video and i was analyzing it after. I can see there is TONS of room for improvement!!!

almost a meter PB in triple though…

peace

[flight05]

flight05 on May 18, 2003 at 10:46 pm #19968

on video it seems that i am really reaching in my step phase (on the landing into step-jump), and my left leg is almost fully extended.

Should i be reaching for every little centimeter? or should i keep the leg in front of me and more bent?

thanks

[Mike Young]

Mike Young on May 19, 2003 at 12:39 pm #19969

You should neither reach nor paw for the ground. You should instead make sure your foot contact is made as close as possible under your hips.

ELITETRACK Founder

[lumberjack]

lumberjack on May 19, 2003 at 3:30 pm #19970

[i]Originally posted by flight05[/i]
on video it seems that i am really reaching in my step phase (on the landing into step-jump), and my left leg is almost fully extended.

Should i be reaching for every little centimeter? or should i keep the leg in front of me and more bent?

thanks

The landing distance in front of the center of gravity should increase slightly with each successive landing, as the athlete loses horizontal velocity. So the contact point for the jump takeoff should be more in front of the body and more of a block than the hop and step takeoffs.

Is your reaching excessive? It's difficult to tell unless we could see it. However it should not be reaching for all you are worth, and the knee should not be completely straight. At first ground contact it should be more straight than in your step and hop takeoffs and slightly more in front of the center of gravity.

But one of the biggest problems in the triple jump is reaching too far and creating too much blocking (and loss of horizontal velocity), so trying to land directly under your hips, as Mike suggested, is usually a good idea. Just keep in mind that you should be landing slightly further out on each ground contact.

[flight05]

flight05 on May 20, 2003 at 5:38 am #19971

its odd because during my record jump i didnt lose as much speed as i usually do.
during the transition from the step to jump my landing seemed to be heel first because I was reaching so much.

with all of these flaws i believe i can get into the 14 range for sure if the conditions are right…

[Mike Young]

Mike Young on May 20, 2003 at 6:22 am #19972

[i]Originally posted by flight05[/i]
its odd because during my record jump i didnt lose as much speed as i usually do.
during the transition from the step to jump my landing seemed to be heel first because I was reaching so much.

All jumping takeoff should proceed in a heel-to-toe manner.

ELITETRACK Founder

[flight05]

flight05 on May 21, 2003 at 2:53 am #19973

i thought landing heel first would increase contact time and increase breaking resulting in weaker jump.

i thought we were supposed to be landing flatfooted.

[Kebba Tolbert]

Kebba Tolbert on May 21, 2003 at 6:58 am #19974

[i]Originally posted by flight05[/i]
i thought landing heel first would increase contact time and increase breaking resulting in weaker jump.

i thought we were supposed to be landing flatfooted.

not heel landing like some distance coaches advocate… but a flat footed action/'set-up" where the heel is leading…. when the heel loads you can use the whole surface of the foot (to dissipate forces and as a control/timing mechanism)

[flight05]

flight05 on May 24, 2003 at 7:04 am #19975

I got scared today, in the triple jump i faulted my first two jumps and had to jog/walk up to the board and jump 12.30.

I won with 12.88 into a head wind. But i won which is the most
important thing. In long jump (next day) I jumped 6.19 into a huge headwind which affected
everyones performances. I can look great upon that result even though it wasn't a pb it was still into
a rough headwind that was illegal for all the people going in the opposite direction (3+) But i won long jump whihc is more important. In the hurdles i ran 16.4 into a head wind in a race in
which i tripped over a couple hurdles but i gutted it out on the last couple hurdles and stole
second from the guy who was winning most of the race. (i ended up winning the highest point total for my division and our school won the junior division team title for the first time evr.)
I feel good going into the west regionals as the number 2 seed in triple and long jump. Hopefully
all goes well, and i can get some PB's…..our 4×1 lit it up and beat the slow heat by 3 seconds and
took 3 rd overall with a time of 46 flat which can get us to ofssaa hopefully.

peace

[flight05]

flight05 on May 25, 2003 at 10:29 pm #19976

today i did a 30, 50, and 80 metre sprints. i ran 9.64 in the 80 metre one i dont know if thats good, it could been inaccurately if it was unreasonable because my little sister timed me.

in the weightroom i established new pbs in the power clean and front squat. PC=80kg and Front Squat = 90 kg
it seems for the past 2 weeks, whenever i enter the wieghtroom, i get a PB, odd.
hopefully this means something good is going to happen when the conditions are decent. (been awfully cold here in ontario for the past meets)

went to michigan to do some shopping. I found Michael Johnsons Slaying the Dragon for $1 (yes one dollar) at the dollar store!!! i couldnt believe it!!

I also found BIOTEST MD6 for $10…is this worthless? Can it help me? I know its for dieting but will it help me get more ripped (i am fairly trim at 165 at 6'1)??

Thanks Guys

[flight05]

flight05 on June 1, 2003 at 9:51 am #19977

okay we just had our ofssa west regionals and we must have had the poorest conditions for a track meet i have ever been associated with.

we had a -7 headwind, 40°, and pouring rain (nobody broke under 12 in the 100)

I jumped 6.04 which was spectacular given the conditions. this put me in second throughout the majority of the competition (5/6 rounds).
The wind finally let up to like -3 and then all hell broke loose. i fell from 2nd the 6th in one series of jumps. as everybody started jumping well, with 6.07, 6.09 etc.
well it was my turn to step up and join the fun with a farther jump and i faulted. i choked. the most disappointing moment in my life. I failed to quialify for the provincial championships by 5 cm.

Yesterday was better in which we ran into a -1.7 headwind but i wasnt as bad (it felt like i was cutting through butter compared to todays weather.)
This was in triple jump. I jumped 13.20, a PB but disappointing none the less as i felt i could have jumped much further, like my legs had energy there but never used it. it was kind of wierd. I placed 4th after being second as well throughout the competetion and was edged out on people's last jumps again. I still qualify for OFSSA.

one thing i noticed is how SLOW the better jumpers than me run up to the board! i go full out like it is a race and i dont jump as close as the one guy does (14.54) i go much faster. maybe im out of control.

In 4×1 i ran a 11.1 split and our relay team ran 45.5 a huge PB and still finished 8th.

[justdoit]

justdoit on June 1, 2003 at 11:45 am #19978

Was the guy's name who jumped 14.54m Dwaine Harriot, or something like that.

[flight05]

flight05 on June 1, 2003 at 8:28 pm #19979

yup
i cant believe he runs so slow and yet jumps so far

[justdoit]

justdoit on June 2, 2003 at 3:52 am #19980

dude, that guy is also a damn good long jumper…………and that doesnt make sence becasue he is slow……….

Anyways can u describe him to me, like is he skinny? Build or ripped? Tall?

If u got a video of is jumps post it plzzzzzzzz

[flight05]

flight05 on June 2, 2003 at 5:21 am #19981

[i]Originally posted by justdoit[/i]
dude, that guy is also a damn good long jumper…………and that doesnt make sence becasue he is slow……….

lol he only ended up jumping 6.28 yesterday man but your right he is good he won too. there is a kid from brookfield who jumped 7.12 yesterday in toronto i think.

[i]Originally posted by justdoit[/i]
Anyways can u describe him to me, like is he skinny? Build or ripped? Tall?

he is lean, skinny and ripped has big hamstrings too.

[i]Originally posted by justdoit[/i]
If u got a video of is jumps post it plzzzzzzzz

if i had video of myself i would post it first…but i cant even do that.

[flight05]

flight05 on July 14, 2003 at 11:23 pm #19982

new pb yesterday:
13.60m
i faulted some bigger jumps, it was a good day indeed

[fasttwitch]

fasttwitch on July 16, 2003 at 9:02 am #19983

What age are you flight05? will you be going to the legion championships in Kitchener? I only ask because I was on my way there but I choked in TJ qualifiers with 6 faults(terrible conditions so it's not as bad as it sounds) so I'm looking to live vicariously as my season is over.

If you're '86 or younger, we're doing something wrong out here in BC. I only jump 12.87 and run 11.3. (i'm an 87)

[flight05]

flight05 on July 16, 2003 at 11:24 pm #19984

[i]Originally posted by fasttwitch[/i]
What age are you flight05? will you be going to the legion championships in Kitchener?
If you're '86 or younger, we're doing something wrong out here in BC. I only jump 12.87 and run 11.3. (i'm an 87)

i was born in 86

i dont know any info on the kitchener qualifier? when is it? any info? thanks for looking out!

peace

BTW- when i was your age, my PB was only 12.70 running a 12.1 ……..lol i improve a lot!

[fasttwitch]

fasttwitch on July 17, 2003 at 1:03 am #19985

The Legion Championships is a national training camp/track meet for 15-17 year olds. I believe it's the top one or two athletes in each event. Here, it's a team of 40 athletes, but it's probably more for Ontario since the travel costs would be minimal. I'm not sure about Ontario's qualifiers, but here we had a straight competition for all the marbles, as opposed to the best time/jump of the year. You might want to check Ontario athletics' web site. Where do you live in Ontario anyways?

[flight05]

flight05 on July 17, 2003 at 2:10 am #19986

i live in southwestrn ontario sarnia to be exact

is the name of it the (OTFA Supermeet) Canadian Legion Meet & Camp?

[fasttwitch]

fasttwitch on July 17, 2003 at 10:56 pm #19987

I think so. Is the date on it August 5-12? 'cause that's when the meet is.

[flight05]

flight05 on July 18, 2003 at 8:09 am #19988

i dont believe im going because im going to a basketball camp instead ….5 star

http://www.five-starbasketball.com

[fasttwitch]

fasttwitch on July 18, 2003 at 8:45 am #19989

Yeah, sounds like you might not have made it anyway 'cause you jump against Harrison. Good luck at the basketball camp. i used to play but now I just fool around, i can't afford to play competitively 'cause I've rolled my ankles so many times. 🙁 at least it giving it up allowed more time for soccer and track. Anyway, is your season still going in Ontario? We're done here, but does your season start later because of the cold winters?

[flight05]

flight05 on July 18, 2003 at 7:44 pm #19990

umm our school track season ends when provincials are completed but i dont compete with a clubb i am unattached.

i believe it is harriott i know him pretty well he jumps in mid to high 14's but hasnt improved a whole lot since grade 9. i think i might be able to take him out next year. hoping.

peace

[fasttwitch]

fasttwitch on July 19, 2003 at 12:44 am #19991

right, right, Harriot. My bad.

Do you compete unnattached at club meets? If not, then I guess your season is over then?

[flight05]

flight05 on July 19, 2003 at 2:05 am #19992

unattached