[Carl Valle]

Carl Valle on November 24, 2011 at 3:14 am #17991

How do you set goals? I am not sure the best way, but I like testing where you are and see the history of improvement year to year. My program on average improves a new athlete 3.2 percent, and improvement decays at about 2/3s of the previous year until the genetic ceiling hits about 5-6 years later. Sometimes I have had athlete improve 5% or actually get slower if they have a poor training histor

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[Derrick Brito]

Derrick Brito on November 24, 2011 at 6:05 am #112556

That is excellent information Carl, thank you. One of the things I am currently working on is an average rate of improvement that could be used to evaluate the talent of an athlete and effectiveness of a program. Of course this relates to high school athletes so it is good to see information that can relate to more advanced ones as well.

[W.E. Price]

W.E. Price on November 24, 2011 at 6:26 am #112557

Of course it becomes even more difficult to project when you have to utilize numerous alternative options to get the planned work in. To-date I would say roughly 35% of the fall training plan (specifically track work) might’ve suffered some degree of time-sensitive effectiveness due to alternate measures not related to weather conditions.

[Carl Valle]

Carl Valle on November 24, 2011 at 9:09 am #112570

Sure, but how much? Eventually time trials and meets will make the plan, and what was recorded, how the improvement was made.

[Matt Norquist]

Matt Norquist on November 24, 2011 at 11:57 am #112576

How do improvements vary by level of person coming in? Can’t imagine the “average” 11.00 guy makes improvements at that rate for long/at all.

Similarly – would think certain events are much more difficult to sustain that level of improvement.

[W.E. Price]

W.E. Price on November 26, 2011 at 1:36 pm #112639

Sure, but how much? Eventually time trials and meets will make the plan, and what was recorded, how the improvement was made.

The fact of the matter, in my case, that phase is the only period where a true plan and elemental work might be implemented. Subsequently, it’s fingers crossed with whomever picks it up.