Does know a general guideline that you can take with short approach jumps to determine full approach distance? For example, how much should an 8.20m jumper, jump from half approach (10 strides), and from 12,14 etc etc…?
does anyone know?
Short approach jumps…
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thats a good question but i dont think there is a definite answer to it however.
in my case i dont handle speed too well. some ppl need a lot of speed in order to jump their pr
(the 8.20 u speak of)
the diff btw my 5 step and 10 step is very minimal. but full approach is still being the farthest.u also jump far off of few steps like me.
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well, i jumped 6m from 6. 6.80 from 8. and then 7.05 from 10 and i am doing 12 steps this weekend in training so i will see how far i will go then. i am much faster this season compared to last so i hopefully i will just keep getting better.
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So i went 7.15m today from 12…hopefully it will keep going up.
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KeymasterDoes know a general guideline that you can take with short approach jumps to determine full approach distance? For example, how much should an 8.20m jumper, jump from half approach (10 strides), and from 12,14 etc etc…?
does anyone know?
It's really highly athlete-dependent. For practically every athlete there comes a point of diminishing returns on jump distance when speed is increased. That is, they can't properly setup a nice takeoff as speed increases. This is why you see younger athletes frequently jump further from very short approaches. For more advanced athletes the dropoff seems to not be too much between 10-7 strides because by that point you're basically operating at 92-95% max velocity. It's the very short run jumps (2-5 strides) where you see dramatic drop-offs because the takeoff velocities are so much less.
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Kind of going along with this idea of short approach jumps…
Is it beneficial to worry about foot placement on the board when doing short approach jumps?
As I understand it, a short approach jump is used to work on a complete jump, from take off to full landing, without running from competition distance. So would foot placment on the board really make a difference, or is it more important to just work on technique with this and worry about foot placement while doing full approach run throughs?
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Foot placement in relation to the body, yes very important, being on the board consistently? well, some people think its not important in training. I happen to think otherwise. I think hitting the board consistently becomes a habit, eventually you want to be able to feel if you are going to be on the board after your first couple of strides. Personally i make an effort to be perfect on the board from all short jumps (8st, 10st,12st etc) and i rarely foul during meets, so i feel there is some correlation there. Also, being on the board will help you measure your jumps during practice.
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Foot placement in relation to the body, yes very important, being on the board consistently? well, some people think its not important in training. I happen to think otherwise. I think hitting the board consistently becomes a habit, eventually you want to be able to feel if you are going to be on the board after your first couple of strides. Personally i make an effort to be perfect on the board from all short jumps (8st, 10st,12st etc) and i rarely foul during meets, so i feel there is some correlation there. Also, being on the board will help you measure your jumps during practice.
Completely agree, get em on the board at practice. There is a definite correlation between fouls during practice and fouls during meets.
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So..
Was at GB national squad training this weekend, and a guy who has a PB of over 8.20m jumped 7.60m from 14 strides, it was an outstanding jump. Made my 7.10m look quite ordinary, although i think it was an off day for me…
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So..
Was at GB national squad training this weekend, and a guy who has a PB of over 8.20m jumped 7.60m from 14 strides, it was an outstanding jump. Made my 7.10m look quite ordinary, although i think it was an off day for me…
what you think of that? anyone seen further from 14?I've seen Moffit and Davis both jump over 7.50m from 12 steps.
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Is it beneficial to worry about foot placement on the board when doing short approach jumps?
As I understand it, a short approach jump is used to work on a complete jump, from take off to full landing, without running from competition distance. So would foot placment on the board really make a difference, or is it more important to just work on technique with this and worry about foot placement while doing full approach run throughs?
I would use both. Working in the absense of steering can help the athlete to focus on mechanics. Requiring legal takeoff positions teaches the athlete to steer. Dan Pfaff is very big on teaching the ability to steer.
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