[rice773]

rice773 on February 5, 2004 at 3:22 am #8881

I am training for the 400/800 so i need intensive tempo, speed and a few longer runs. The problem i have is that i am trying to fit in some longer runs on my short speed day, is this okay to do or should these two diffrerent types of stimulus never be mixed? Thanks-

[weckingball]

weckingball on February 20, 2004 at 12:14 pm #25470

I think that longer aerobic runs are more important on off days to clean out the lactic acid from the body from a previous workout. other than that, double days are difficult to do unless you have a well-educated person watching your mileage as well as what workouts you are doing that day.

but thats just what Ive been told.

[dma1973]

dma1973 on February 21, 2004 at 5:17 am #25471

The biggest problem people have with 2 sessions a day is they think they can double the training. Wrong.

If you have no choice in the matter I would do a long easy run in morning and main session later in the day.

But then again I wouldn't do intensive tempo and speed endurance in the same week.

[Mike Young]

Mike Young on February 22, 2004 at 4:04 am #25472

If you can handle the volume and the increased time demand, I think split training sessions can be very effective. Also, as long as the duration of time between the two sessions is great enough that the early session doesn't effect the late session and the late session doesn't effect the next day's session(s) I don't see a real problem with putting two sessions with seemingly conflicting stimuli on the same day.

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[jumper-aj]

jumper-aj on February 22, 2004 at 4:17 am #25473

I dont know, I wouldn't do it for too long. it takes a while to recover from hard sessions, and granted you'll be recovered for the next day's morning session, but you wont be 100% i dont think. I mean, back in XC season we were running 7 days a week, or doing 5 days but double practices, with shakeout runs in the morning and actual practice in the afternoon. XC isn't sprinting, but the principle might be similar, as the body needs time to replenish ATP stores and glycogen, and also the mental component has to be considered. If you're running 2x a day for a week, you're going to feel burned out at the end and generally lethargic even if your body is not actually tired, its just the result of no mental rest. I'd say if you must, you can do practices 2x a day, but I wouldn't do it for very long continuously, and take a large break inbetween sessions of 2x a day practices to let your mind recover.

[Mike Young]

Mike Young on February 23, 2004 at 1:42 am #25474

[i]Originally posted by jumper_AJ[/i]
I dont know, I wouldn't do it for too long. it takes a while to recover from hard sessions, and granted you'll be recovered for the next day's morning session, but you wont be 100% i dont think.

Like I said in my previous post, "If you can handle the volume and increased time demand….."

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[rice773]

rice773 on March 5, 2004 at 1:13 am #25475

Any thoughts about putting a 20-30min run right after an accel dev. or max v. day? This is really the only time i have, as i am usually too tired after ext/int. tempo sessions. Thanks-

[Mike Young]

Mike Young on March 5, 2004 at 3:29 pm #25476

It's not really the ideal way to go. I'd do the continuous tempo runs in the mornings 1-2 times a week.

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