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          Nick Newman on February 26, 2010 at 2:31 am #16563

          Hey,

          Does anyone have decent sports psych peer reviewed articles on anything track related?

          Thanks

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          Craig Pickering on February 26, 2010 at 8:01 am #95175

          Ill second that, Id like to get a hold of these.

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          davan on February 27, 2010 at 11:00 am #95209

          What kind of stuff are you looking for? Most of the work isn’t specifically geared to a single sport (and if it is, it’s usually a very specific activity, like free throws–probably not going to find anything worthwhile specifically for long jump, for example).

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          Nick Newman on February 27, 2010 at 11:17 am #95211

          I doing work right now on “cue” words and self talk in competitions…

          I have found a nice one on with elite jav throwers…But that’s it.

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          Carl Valle on February 27, 2010 at 11:19 am #95213

          I am sitting down with a sports psychologist this Sunday at 4pm. His stuff is outstanding…..very practical and real. Not a big name but he competes in the LJ as a masters guy.

          CV

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          davan on February 27, 2010 at 11:22 am #95214

          I doing work right now on “cue” words and self talk in competitions…

          I have found a nice one on with elite jav throwers…But that’s it.

          I always have a hard time believing/accepting this kind of stuff…. doesn’t it really fall into the art of coaching and quite individual to both the athlete and the coach/psychologist involved? Identical cues work or don’t work for people in completely different ways and the self-talk and visualization work is mixed with it helping some and not helping others (though this depends on what the visualization entails).

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          Nick Newman on February 27, 2010 at 12:50 pm #95216

          Yeah i agree with all that. I do think that the “art” of coaching has become lost to science though and almost forgot about…But anyway,

          The article i just read about the jav throwers said that although it was a case study and can’t really be generalized across populations the findings were similar to much other research. Stating that elite athletes tend to use technical cues during practice and meets which connote whole actions instead of part actions…

          Example,

          Elite – “rhythm rhythm rhythm”
          Non elite – “Aggressive take off”

          And although part action sayings may aid that particular action the whole action suffers…

          I can understand this. I also tend to focus on part action with my cues during meets and I have screwed up whole technique many times…

          Thoughts?

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          Matt Norquist on February 27, 2010 at 4:36 pm #95218

          Yeah i agree with all that. I do think that the “art” of coaching has become lost to science though and almost forgot about…But anyway,

          The article i just read about the jav throwers said that although it was a case study and can’t really be generalized across populations the findings were similar to much other research. Stating that elite athletes tend to use technical cues during practice and meets which connote whole actions instead of part actions…

          Example,

          Elite – “rhythm rhythm rhythm”
          Non elite – “Aggressive take off”

          And although part action sayings may aid that particular action the whole action suffers…

          I can understand this. I also tend to focus on part action with my cues during meets and I have screwed up whole technique many times…

          Thoughts?

          I did some research in college where I looked at National Champions vs. National caliber athletes who did not win titles. Idea was look at guys who had the talent and what separated winners from placers. IE – Me from National Champions. Did an n=20 of National Champions and n=20 of placers (top 8) in NCAA D1, D2 and NAIA. Across Decathlon, Javelin, Shot Put, 110H, and PV.

          Psychologically speaking, the biggest single difference – was that Champions were better able to visualize themselves through their “mind’s eye” while placers visualized themselves almost as though on TV. This was a 20/20 phenomenon. Not a random (nor representative) sample, but pretty interesting findings nevertheless.

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          burkhalter on February 27, 2010 at 5:14 pm #95219

          I have noticed that some days during the week certain visualization works and other times it doesn’t – within the same week. And personally visualizing “relaxation” for a sprint can work and then say doing a clean in the same day and visualizing “extend, extend” or “pull like hell, etc.” may not help that exercise, I may be flat in it. I wish I knew specifically why but there are a million possibilities.

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          Nick Newman on February 28, 2010 at 3:32 pm #95256

          I have found that the “pull like hell” type of cue always really helps my clean actually…

          When i cue a good landing, i can do it as well…it is hard to cue whole action though i find. That tends to happen when thinking at all is at a minimum.

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          burkhalter on February 28, 2010 at 4:45 pm #95270

          I have found that the “pull like hell” type of cue always really helps my clean actually…

          When i cue a good landing, i can do it as well…it is hard to cue whole action though i find. That tends to happen when thinking at all is at a minimum.

          I agree that pull like hell cue does typically help me as well. I was wondering why somethings on the same training day somethings are successfully cued and then another part of training may not be. Task specific.

          When you say whole action are you referring to the entire run up through takeoff and landing?

          This discussion brings to mind the bobsleigh competition today where they interviewed Steve Holcombe. He has a degenerative eye disease that almost forced retirement. As his eyes deteriorated he learned to rely more and more on feel to pilot. He had his vision corrected to 20/20 through a surgical procedure and he said it did not help his driving at all due to his reliance on feel and not necessarily seeing the track. To compensate he said he doesn’t change the visor on his helmet and instead allows it to stay scratched to “blur” his vision so he can rely on feel more.

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          Nick Newman on March 1, 2010 at 10:45 am #95307

          Yeah entire technique from start to finish instead of just bits of it.

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          burkhalter on March 2, 2010 at 11:24 am #95342

          That would be tough.
          Fwiw it’s worth a buddy of mine heard Tiger saying to himself execute execute execute before setting up to swing. This was in comp.

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          coachformerlyknownas on March 2, 2010 at 11:29 am #95343

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)

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          Nick Newman on March 2, 2010 at 11:40 am #95344

          That would be tough.
          Fwiw it’s worth a buddy of mine heard Tiger saying to himself execute execute execute before setting up to swing. This was in comp.

          There’s a perfect example.

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