stress fracture

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          Joel Huisenga on February 11, 2007 at 8:52 am #12764

          Has anyone here ever tried to keep running on a stress fracture (tibia) before? If so, how did you handle it? I still need to go to see the trainer tomorrow for the final call on it but that's what I'm looking at right now.

          I'm thinking that I'll cut down to as extreme low volume/high quality as I can, doing as much of my warmup without running as possible with one speed, one SE/SEI(I) workout a week with a meet most weekends. Off days would be GS/MB/BB or other cross training but absolutely no running. Of course this assumes I can manage to run at MaxV on the fracture.

          If you stopped running completely, what did you do to try and maintain speed? I think I'd be able to maintain work capacity, general fitness and strength fine but speed work just seems too specific to get done without actually being able to run.

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          utfootball4 on February 11, 2007 at 8:59 am #62802

          one of my bro friends broke his broke foot in the fall and its not heal so he decided to get a shot and try to finish the season with the broken foot, he had his first meet today and won the triple jump. so depending on ur situation you could keep sprinting or if you are a freshman or soph i would probably just sit out.

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          cerebro on February 11, 2007 at 9:19 am #62803

          It's very risky. Don't turn something that could heal in a few weeks to something that will take a few months. If you do continue to run, extremely low volumes would be necessary (I'd go as far as to say have no jogging and few strides in the warm-up). You can stay very fit via medball circuits, general strength circuits, pool work, etc. and strength can be improved, along w/ explosive medball work to enhance elastic qualities.

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          Mike Young on February 12, 2007 at 1:45 am #62804

          It's very risky. Don't turn something that could heal in a few weeks to something that will take a few months. If you do continue to run, extremely low volumes would be necessary (I'd go as far as to say have no jogging and few strides in the warm-up). You can stay very fit via medball circuits, general strength circuits, pool work, etc. and strength can be improved, along w/ explosive medball work to enhance elastic qualities.

          I agree. I have quite a few stress related injuries (especially tibial and metatarsal) in my group due to some unique circumstances of where I work (wearing boots / dress shoes all the time, walking every where, very hard indoor track, etc) and I've found it's much better to heavily modify training (at a short term but minimal cost to overall fitness) than to try and push through (and risk long term damage and cost to fitness).

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          utfootball4 on February 12, 2007 at 2:52 am #62805

          [quote author="cerebro" date="1171165773"]
          It's very risky. Don't turn something that could heal in a few weeks to something that will take a few months. If you do continue to run, extremely low volumes would be necessary (I'd go as far as to say have no jogging and few strides in the warm-up). You can stay very fit via medball circuits, general strength circuits, pool work, etc. and strength can be improved, along w/ explosive medball work to enhance elastic qualities.

          I agree. I have quite a few stress related injuries (especially tibial and metatarsal) in my group due to some unique circumstances of where I work (wearing boots / dress shoes all the time, walking every where, very hard indoor track, etc) and I've found it's much better to heavily modify training (at a short term but minimal cost to overall fitness) than to try and push through (and risk long term damage and cost to fitness).
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          if i have a athlete who is a fifth year senior and the doctors tell him if he gets a shot that he cant do anymore damage, then why not – its the athlete last year. if the athlete is fr/soph then ill agree be more caution.

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          Mike Young on February 12, 2007 at 3:08 am #62806

          if i have a athlete who is a fifth year senior and the doctors tell him if he gets a shot that he cant do anymore damage, then why not – its the athlete last year. if the athlete is fr/soph then ill agree be more caution.

          I wasn't speaking about a shot, I was speaking about training hard and without modification through a tibial stress fracture. To the best of my knowledge there aren't any shots that can address that.

          Under circumstances like you mentioned I have no problem with working through it. In fact, last year I had 2 like that (both with pre-existing cervical fractures from military training) and this year I've got one with a broken pinky-toe. I had all of them work through (because they wanted to) and there was no risk of greater injury.

          ELITETRACK Founder

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          Carl Valle on February 12, 2007 at 3:12 am #62807

          During the GPP take a look at the intrinsic strength of the feet….when they go so does the elastic bounce of the foot increasing tibial stress.

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          utfootball4 on February 12, 2007 at 3:12 am #62808

          [quote author="utfootball4" date="1171228959"]
          if i have a athlete who is a fifth year senior and the doctors tell him if he gets a shot that he cant do anymore damage, then why not – its the athlete last year. if the athlete is fr/soph then ill agree be more caution.

          I wasn't speaking about a shot, I was speaking about training hard and without modification through a tibial stress fracture. To the best of my knowledge there aren't any shots that can address that.

          Under circumstances like you mentioned I have no problem with working through it. In fact, last year I had 2 like that (both with pre-existing cervical fractures from military training) and this year I've got one with a broken pinky-toe. I had all of them work through (because they wanted to) and there was no risk of greater injury.
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          i was talking about my athlete situation, which was a broken foot that happen early in fall workouts and wasnt healing at all, then he went to see dennis thompson ARP guy and it got wrost.

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          Carl Valle on February 12, 2007 at 3:19 am #62809

          please share your experiences UTFootball

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          utfootball4 on February 12, 2007 at 3:20 am #62810

          please share your experiences UTFootball

          what experiences, i didnt coach the triple jumper i was only in charge for his strength program.

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          Carl Valle on February 12, 2007 at 3:25 am #62811

          No, THE ARP issue

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          utfootball4 on February 12, 2007 at 3:34 am #62812

          No, THE ARP issue

          ill call him to get more details, i think he went to Dennis for 5 days str 3-4times per day. they plug him into the arp machine and had him doing single bunny hops for 5-10mins. they also told him to discontinue all the strength training i had him doing, clean, snatches, jerks, squats etc for iso lunge hold and iso gh holds for 5mins.  after his second treatment day they told him to go to practice and do runway work at 100% full approaches etc. he just said that the stuff they had him during was soo extreme that it was crazy.

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          Joel Huisenga on February 13, 2007 at 6:11 am #62813

          They're not going to let me run for six weeks unless I have a bone scan come back negative. I'm still trying to find out if my insurance will cover it or not. During the six weeks they'll only let me do pool work at first, eventually some bike/elliptical, but it sounds I won't be able to do anything even remotely specific. Once that period is over I'd only have 7 weeks to train before our last meet of the year. Is it even possible to get in shape to run well in such a short time period after a 6 week segment of nothing but low intensity cardio work?

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          utfootball4 on February 13, 2007 at 7:48 pm #62814

          They're not going to let me run for six weeks unless I have a bone scan come back negative. I'm still trying to find out if my insurance will cover it or not. During the six weeks they'll only let me do pool work at first, eventually some bike/elliptical, but it sounds I won't be able to do anything even remotely specific. Once that period is over I'd only have 7 weeks to train before our last meet of the year. Is it even possible to get in shape to run well in such a short time period after a 6 week segment of nothing but low intensity cardio work?

          i think 7 weeks will be enough time esp if you have put in some nice work prior to the injury.  u should still be able to do standing med ball circuits and standing explosive med ball throws real soon.

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