Alrite, so after a bunch of research I tried creatine. A month, no loading phase just 5g daily mixed with grape juice before workouts. Didn't gain/lose any weight, didn't feel dehydrated or the need to drink more water and I didnt lose any weight when I stopped taking it. What supplements would you guys reccomend for similar results (I want to put on lean muscle mass)?
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How's your diet?
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Relatively clean, I eat a good deal of red meat, pasta, chicken, cereal and sandwiches (whole wheat bread with turkey). I get a good amount of protein, enough carbs. I stay away from fattening/sugar filled stuff ie fast food, chips, candy, ice cream etc. I eat fairly well overall and I do eat a small amount of fruits and vegetables, however I hope that my multi makes up for what I don't eat lol.
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You may get vitamins/minerals that you miss from your lack of veggies, but what you are missing is the net base load that they form. You are also missing out on fiber, various flavinoids, and increases in TEF by failing to eat them. What you eat is all fine and dandy if you eat it at the right time. Without looking at what you eat and when I'd venture a guess that you could improve your eating and improve your health/performance very nicely.
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Alrite, so after a bunch of research I tried creatine. A month, no loading phase just 5g daily mixed with grape juice before workouts. Didn't gain/lose any weight, didn't feel dehydrated or the need to drink more water and I didnt lose any weight when I stopped taking it. What supplements would you guys reccomend for similar results (I want to put on lean muscle mass)?
if u want to gain weight on creatine do the loading phase 20grm for 5days, the maintain with 5gr on workout days and try some nitromax its protein/meal replacement/pwo shake.
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if u want to gain weight on creatine do the loading phase 20grm for 5days, the maintain with 5gr on workout days and try some nitromax its protein/meal replacement/pwo shake.
No loading required. Same gains without it.
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[quote author="utfootball4" date="1148448591"]
if u want to gain weight on creatine do the loading phase 20grm for 5days, the maintain with 5gr on workout days and try some nitromax its protein/meal replacement/pwo shake.
No loading required. Same gains without it.
[/quote]nope, load.
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WS- you found alot of studies about cramping and creatine, do you have any showing that loading does nothing beside make your spend more money?
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WS- you found alot of studies about cramping and creatine, do you have any showing that loading does nothing beside make your spend more money?
i dont need to see any studies, i have done my own studies. also money shouldnt really be an issue bc creatine is sooo cheap these days!
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WS- you found alot of studies about cramping and creatine, do you have any showing that loading does nothing beside make your spend more money?
Schedel JM, et al. Life Sci 1999 Oct 29;65(23):2463-70
Burke DG, et al. J Strength Cond Res 2001 Feb;15(1):59-62
Becque et al (Med Sci Sports Exerc. 32:654-8, 2000)
Brenner et al (J Strength Cond Res. 14: 207- 213, 2000)
Jones et al (J Sports Med Phys Fitness. 39:189- 96, 1999)
Kirksey et al (J Strength Cond Res. 13: 148- 156, 1999)
Larson-Meyer et al (J Strength Cond Res. 14: 434-442, 2000)
Pearson et al (J Strength Cond Res. 13:187- 192, 1999)
Stevenson et al (Med Sci Sports Exerc 33:1304- 10, 2001) -
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Alrite, so after a bunch of research I tried creatine. A month, no loading phase just 5g daily mixed with grape juice before workouts. Didn't gain/lose any weight, didn't feel dehydrated or the need to drink more water and I didnt lose any weight when I stopped taking it. What supplements would you guys reccomend for similar results (I want to put on lean muscle mass)?if u want to gain weight on creatine do the loading phase 20grm for 5days, the maintain with 5gr on workout days and try some nitromax its protein/meal replacement/pwo shake.
[/quote]Long term, the loading phase has little to do with weight gain. Loading may be useful for aesthetic purposes, though. Dr. Lonnie Lowery recently summed up the question with this answer: "loading may have certain "benefits" for a physique enthusiast, but for general training purposes, cellular energy, and eventual performance enhancement, I think the old five grams per day (generally one tablespoon or a little less) approach is probably best."
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i felt a bit bloated and didn't seem to affected by creatine mono. i got some cee and it worked much better. less bloat, felt stronger, better recovery.
as for loading vs. non loading, loading gets your tissue to complete saturation faster than non-loading, but both result in the same saturation over a period of time.
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